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Cracking Halfpenny there Trev. Well done!
Another great read thank you, I also found an Irish halfpenny of the same date and like you I was amazed at the condition. After a little research I discovered they were made from the very best copper unlike the English coins of this period.
No, I switched back to my first love GMP after the garden. Thanks for commenting and the good wishes
Thanks JC I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the information and for commenting!
Here's the details:
Date of hunt: Sunday 19th of March
Location: Derbyshire. (B____'s Dig 2), (3 field survey).
Ground: ploughed (med mineralization, high iron contamination, high hot rocks)
Settings: V4 HOT
Detector: XP Deus with 11" coil. (v4 version)
Hunt Time: 8 hours.
You Tube Hunt Link at the end of this post
Hello and welcome, my name's Trev and I hope you enjoy another edition of my diary. I hope to inform and entertain you with my particular style of blog. My raison d'être is to find a gold coin. I pray you are sitting comfortably in your study on an easy chair with your feet up. Perhaps with a drink of your choice in hand such as a glass of Remy Martin Louis XIII Cognac and nibbling at portions of foie gras. From the comfort of your own home you can read of my daring exploits in dark, dangerous and downright deadly Derbyshire. Before we get to this review and field test I want to tell you I'm not an 'expert' I'm not even sure many detecting 'experts' actually exist (except, obviously, manufacturers) . I have been detecting for the past 22 years and have owned a variety of detectors such as Minelabs and loaned many others. So, I have some experience but no actual qualifications in metal detecting apart from perhaps an NVQ in [b]Lowest Find Rate 1990-2017 I'm not a Deus fanboy. I will be absolutely honest on what I think.
Field Test of the XP Deus v4
Today you've joined me to test the Deus v4. I went to this location because these fields adjacent to the ones I'm on today were really difficult to detect on. In fact, Ironman went on to enigmatically say, "I'm not goin' there. It's rubbish!" Admittedly, it's full of iron, hot rocks and trash but that's all part of the fun, right? I have switched from 3.2 up to v4 and the new improvements/changes include 2 new programs called DEEP (Program 6) and HOT (Program 9) both listed as PRO settings in the updated v4 manual. The HOT program actually has -6.4 Descrimination. Yes, you read that right. You can now detect dark matter! I jest but this baby now hits everything. If you previously thought Gary's Hot program was a hot setting then this is a whole new level of hot. Think of comparing Theresa May to Angelina Jolie then you get the idea. If you can't stand constant buzzing (perhaps you have a phobia for buzzing sounds: Deushotbuzzaphobia) then you may not get on with this setting. However, if you've been using Gary's Hot in the past or full tones then you will be pretty used to this. If you're a newbie, this setting may overwhelm you because the feedback is pretty much constant. My advice is go for the quiet life and detect on GMP program but if you like to hear everything and you can put up with LOTS of buzzing then this is the setting for you.
By the way, I'm not knocking this setting at all. It's absolutely amazing! It doesn't miss a thing. I've found tiny fragments of gold plated jewelry. The smallest musket ball I've ever found plus other little objects from respectable depths. I would say, in truth, I didn't get any small obects any deeper than 5" but larger objects such as buckles were coming up at around 9" May I remind you that these fields were pretty much no go areas before with the Deus and a T2. This machine has absolutely improved since 3.2. A very fast user interface skips between settings and programs much faster. More accurate tracking (changes to match the ground more frequently). It's more acurate on iron and hot rocks (I didn't get fooled by a single one. In the past, I was constantly digging them. If this detector can get by in fields like these it can hit anywhere.
Oscilloscope Visual Display Indicator
Now, picture this, as you're walking along to the constant, quiet buzz of minerals and iron contamination then a high tone PINGS out. You check the Oscilloscope (which is an X+Y grid) and it has a diagonal line from bottom left to top right. Straight away you know it's a non ferrous target (doesn't contain iron). Go dig it. For 8 hours it was never wrong. Yes sometimes it was foil and I did dig the odd large bit of Iron that sneaked through but this VDI is rock solid. I would trust this more than my oldest confidant. Yes, the Deus is a tonal machine and yes always dig the high tones, especially the faint ones but it gives you so much more information than the bouncing numbers on v3.2. It's hard to explain, unless you've seen it. Watch my video later and you'll see. Get v4 and use this setting on difficult ground and I could put (imaginary) money on you'll find more goodies, even on land you've hammered.
DEEP Program Field Test and Review
I tried to detect using this 8khz setting but to be honest I don't think this land was suitable for it. It's got way too much Iron, mineralization and trash. It couldn't cope with this area and the signals were constantly blasting through. The Oscilloscope was scribbling all over the screen like some demented, scribbling demon. After about 2 hours I came to the conclusion that this program is basically unusable in this areas this bad. I'm pretty sure this setting would be a beast on quiet, pasture with little mineralization and iron and pull up some good finds from depth. However, I must stress my own bottomless ignorance and naivety. I've been using the Deus at least once a week for the past few years but I'm still completely new to these 2 programs. I just wanted to share my findings as I saw them.
Are these new settings going to change the way I hunt? Yes, they are. I'm still going to be true to the wonder setting known a GMP but when the going gets tough (loads of Iron + mineralized) I'm bringing out the killer setting known as HOT. I'm looking forward to trying DEEP again on pasture and I will share my thoughts when I do. Take a look at what turned up and take note how tiny some of them are. I've enjoyed writing this and I hope you've enjoyed reading it.
Gratis Junk Removal Service
Iron x5, modern x66, lead x28, copper alloys x23
Coins Edward VII Half Penny 1903, George VI Three Pence 1940s
Fragment of rolled gold (plated: dang!)
Total Finds: 163
Ironman 2 DeusDigger 3
The quest for the gold coin will continue.
See the hunt in action here: (You Tube video will be up later tonight)
Cheers all and happy hunting! I Hope you enjoyed the read and I hope you'll join us on the next dig.
Comments always very welcome
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Great write up - thank you! I've held off on moving to V4 after the coil frying reports. Recognise it looks sorted now but by then I'd been furnished with paint and a brush and had been set to work on painting the house. One bedroom completed and the second half way through left no time for detecting But intend to sort it out this week and do the upgrade.
Sure I'll hate the HOT programme as Fast sends me mad with the constant buzzing in my headphones without adding a full hornets nest to the mix. It's a personal thing I recognise but I love GMP so why change? But excited about the better tones and the new screen. I still dig far too horse shoes
Looking forward to the video later - be good to see it in the field. And like the shamrock very fitting on St Patrick's weekend.
XP Deus, Garrett EuroAce, Garrett pro pinpointer
Great post Trev, well done on that scrap of gold, that coin with your name on it will be out there somewhere
I agree hot is great in the contaminated areas and dont mind digging the scraps of foil and lead as if you ignore those signals you are leaving the thin silver and small Roman coins behind.
I have also played a bit with the GMP and deep programmes, when I go on a new field I will start on hot as that is giving me so much information and it tells me where the iron is which is where people have been and the finds are likely to be. On the quieter areas I will switch to GMP, and if its really quiet to deep but checking some of those signals with hot once the first spadeful is out of the ground.
I dont get on with tracking because where there are a lot of hot rocks it tends to balance to them and then you miss those small signals, I can usually pick them out by the tone but if you look at the XY dispaly they tend to have a flat signal. If you are used to the tones from Garys Hot I would say that the XY display looks like the sounds you are hearing but would be useful when you are getting used to them.
Thank you for an honest informative post, I have not updated to V4 simply because most of my searching is on relatively clean pasture and my ears are as finely tuned as they ever will be to a tweaked version of GMP.
On the odd occasion I am on ploughed or stubble which has a high iron content then I do switch to fast although I have not used it sufficiently to be fully confidant in the tones, which suggest the XY display would be beneficial.
I wait with bated breath for the gold coin, which I am sure you will add to your collection one day.
As usual always a quality read,very enjoyable reading the real down to earth adventures of a detectorist
Deus and Nexus MP only 2 machines i really use these days.
Also use some site specific machines TDI Pro c/w 20'' Mono,Nexus SE dual 9'' coil,Fisher TW-5 twin box.
Yes I loved the read... entertaining as always ... and with a pint of Old Empire IPA under my skin ... please forgive the odd spilling mistake! Talking of Old ... I am an old stick in the Mud... yes I love the idea of a display that compliments my analytical thought process... we want numbers and a visual, so the new display has both, which must beat hands down that rather insulting horseshoe!!! Never figured out why that put a horse shoe on the display,,, it grates me every time I notice it!II
Its a bit like a bite detector having the pic of a minnow on the display!!!
Now I was out the other day and a fellow detectorist was telling me how much silver he had found since the upgrade... but the funny thing was that on the day I found a hammered and he didnt, so despite the upgrade Mother luck still rules supreme!!!
Lets hope that V4. turns out to be a killer upgrade... only time and finds will tell.
Nice one, a great write up
Dont over do the painting OG ... life is too short. I do Deus Fast ... like teenagers do McDonalds ... and I must say that most of the time I have a buzz free day detecting ... that is apart from the buzz of finding something decent!
Great write up I'm keeping my eye on v4 for a bit Trev
Nice finds there Trev, not had time to come on here much so didnt see the Irish coin, lovely, I found one but it was hardly IDable.
Like others I find the honesty and down to earth finds pretty refreshing, back when I was on FB it seemed like everyone only found perfect Hammies and gold staters...Im jealous, I'll admit it! But you never saw the normal finds, its all or nothing for me, the good and the bad.
Land - Deus
Beach - CS4PI
Yes this is a great site ... no fakers ... and no being slagged off for no reason... hey ho.
Not quite sure what to make of your avatar though!!!! maybe I need to visit specsavers!
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll be out testing again on Sunday on a different site. One that I'm hoping will produce. Thanks for the good wishes for that elusive gold coin they really do spur me on. Thanks to everyone for reading and commenting. I read every comment and I'm on here every day (if I'm not out detecting this is my next port of call).
Happy digging everyone and a huge thank you to my new subscribers. I'm going to improve my videos with a new camera very soon so hang in there. Right off to bed to dream about what the next hunt may bring!
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