XP Deus - Control Box

[liamnolan]

This topic is to chat about the Deus control box only. As an ex-GMP user, I started off not attaching the control box as I had got used to detecting solely by tone only and no screen reading. I must admit that I soon got used to the screen and setting the progs and settings through it when detecting. I like the slide on fitting, quick and easy but taking it off can be a little awkward. Charging the control box is simple and the lead is easy to attach and the charge lasts for a full week, although I end up recharging it too often .. just to be SURE it is ok! The screen could be scratched easil I expect and I remove my control box if it starts to rain. I like the case that attaches so easily to the belt and can be flipped open to check readings. Liam B-)

[Oldest Swinger]

Tomorow I will be on my new permission, a 10 acre field deep ploughed and fine tilled so after all this rain deffinately gonna be a quagmire. Tomorow the control goes onto my belt or even leave it behind and use only the head phones.

Paul

[sugar]

the control box is the master controller and when switched on overides the earphones accept for the volume which can be adjusted on the earphones alone.however of course if the control box is not switched on you can use the headphones to run your detector

[liamnolan]

Waterproofing - any suggestions on what is the easiest and best way to stop the rain getting in? Is the casing waterproof enough as it is? At present I just remove it if the rain starts coming down, Liam B-)

[Boxface]

Sealable sandwich bag and back on the magnet works for me boss, the tescos own brand jobs are good and cheap! Always keep a few in my rucksack...

[Verulamium]

If it's raining zip the box into a pocket and just get it out when you need to double check an id or make a change to any settings.

I tend not to use the control box whilst detecting and go by sound alone GMP style. The only real exception to this is when on a site that has a fair bit of foil present where I don't dig signals less than 40 on the meter. I've yet to find a hammy that ids less than 48, even the very smallest out there.

One other tip.....I've found that neither the control box or phones are very scratch resistant so make sure if you do keep it in a pocket it's not with finds, soil, etc. as it will scratch very quickly.

Cheers,
Alex

[Boxface]

Can you post a link to the cover please mate?

[Kmarsh]

Waterproofing - any suggestions on what is the easiest and best way to stop the rain getting in? Is the casing waterproof enough as it is? At present I just remove it if the rain starts coming down, Liam B-)

I'll post a pic of what I use Liam, both for the control box and the earphones, diy job but effective..

[Kmarsh]

This is the cover I make for the Control box, made from clear sleeves for A4 paper, I make them with a vacuum sealer.they are a little stiffer than zip bags........

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[Oldest Swinger]

Waterproofing - any suggestions on what is the easiest and best way to stop the rain getting in? Is the casing waterproof enough as it is? At present I just remove it if the rain starts coming down, Liam B-)

I am surprised at you Liam mate I would have thought as an ex GMP user like myself the control box would be on your belt and the machine used tone only. I did this today and loved it only had to use the control box to shift frequency when my son in law came close with my GMP. Dont think I will ever use it again with control box in situe you will be amazed at how much lighter it is and no more worying about it falling over getting mud in the workings.

Paul

[liamnolan]

Paul, I think you're right, I managed two great years with the GMP and no screen, so why am I using it now? I suppose it is curiosity more than anything, the tones never lie and readings can alter. One good screen indicator is the coke is easily identified as under 25 (on my land anyway)
I was out today, a pretty fruitless expedition, managed only the usual viccies and a nice very ornate bronze lacework that may be a squashed brooch, will post later on. Bottom stem stem fell off again, must be using too wide a swing! Liam B-)

[Oldest Swinger]

Paul, I think you're right, I managed two great years with the GMP and no screen, so why am I using it now? I suppose it is curiosity more than anything, the tones never lie and readings can alter. One good screen indicator is the coke is easily identified as under 25 (on my land anyway)
I was out today, a pretty fruitless expedition, managed only the usual viccies and a nice very ornate bronze lacework that may be a squashed brooch, will post later on. Bottom stem stem fell off again, must be using too wide a swing! Liam B-)

To me the coke sounds exactly as it did on the GMP, only had mine 3 months and most of that time as you know I have been seriously ill so not really had chance to get as confident as with the GMP. Having said that I love the tones XP use the sound of coke exactly as with the GMP same with the shotties, once I am really confident I will just dig the first half dozen or so on a trip just to get my ear in. The one good thing for me at the moment is my land has been ploughed and fine tilled so digging is all one handed (aided with the left boot) and as it is so easy to dig then I am more than happy digging all signals on a fast track learning curve.

I just love my machine Paul

[Kmarsh]

Paul, I think you're right, I managed two great years with the GMP and no screen, so why am I using it now? I suppose it is curiosity more than anything, the tones never lie and readings can alter. One good screen indicator is the coke is easily identified as under 25 (on my land anyway)
I was out today, a pretty fruitless expedition, managed only the usual viccies and a nice very ornate bronze lacework that may be a squashed brooch, will post later on. Bottom stem stem fell off again, must be using too wide a swing! Liam B-)

To me the coke sounds exactly as it did on the GMP, only had mine 3 months and most of that time as you know I have been seriously ill so not really had chance to get as confident as with the GMP. Having said that I love the tones XP use the sound of coke exactly as with the GMP same with the shotties, once I am really confident I will just dig the first half dozen or so on a trip just to get my ear in. The one good thing for me at the moment is my land has been ploughed and fine tilled so digging is all one handed (aided with the left boot) and as it is so easy to dig then I am more than happy digging all signals on a fast track learning curve.

I just love my machine Paul

And I hope ya using the bag I gave ya to protect it...... I only replaced it the other day...

[Oldest Swinger]

I just love my machine Paul

And I hope ya using the bag I gave ya to protect it...... I only replaced it the other day...

I am mate just been looking for one similar with more pokets not found one yet mate gonna look at some cricket bags.

Paul

[barryny]

One of the most interesting features of the Deus is that within Expert mode you can alter where on the conductivity scale you want your tones to sound off. So you can keep the discrimination really low and use 3 tones to keep all targets under for example a 40 as a low tone and all targets over 40 as a high tone. This way you really don't need to look at the screen as you will be digging all high tones...The discrimination level automatically gives a low tone for tone 1, you then set the second tone (to where you want to NOT dig 40 used as the example above) to the same tonal frequency as tone 1 and make the third tone level a high tonal frequency. This creates an artificial "2 tone" mode (similar to running the E-Trac in 2 tone ferrous) while using limited discrimination which some have shown to get superior depth with the Deus..

I altered Basic 2 standard mode to be my "2 tone ferrous mode". I have my discrimination set at 2.0 and made the tonal freq for tone 1 a 202. I then set the tonal frequency for tone 2 to a 202 also and set the tonal freq for tone 3 to a 780. After doing that change I set the "break point" for tone 2 at 40 (tone 1 break point is always your chosen discrimination level). This way everything over a 40 is a high tone and everything 40 and under is a low tone. No need to look at the control screen because you guys dig everything over a +/- 40.

In the USA, it seems that the good targets are ALL at 70 or higher not accounting for gold which is a rare find in our fields anyway...this makes all coppers, good buttons, bronze artifacts like buckles and silver a dig me high tone. So I set my tone 2 break point at a 65.