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Postby orion » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:00 pm

Evening all. Just would like to know if I'm allowed to detect on land if it has a scheduled castle, but this castle is in private grounds and the owner said yes I can :-/ and his house is listed
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby slinky » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:03 pm

If the land you wish to detect on is scheduled then it would be illegal to detect on the land, no matter what the land owner says......
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby GREGGOWREX » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:03 pm

NOOOOOOOOO...not a chance ....sorry for the bad news ... :)
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby gavnsal » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:04 pm

slinky wrote:Hi sorry for bad news no matter what the owners say, if its scheduled then it would be illegal to detect on the site.....


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Re: Am I allowed

Postby orion » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:07 pm

slinky wrote:If the land you wish to detect on is scheduled then it would be illegal to detect on the land....

Thx for letting me know. So would that mean I wouldn't be allowed to do the garden on his house.
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby slinky » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:09 pm

orion wrote:
slinky wrote:If the land you wish to detect on is scheduled then it would be illegal to detect on the land....

Thx for letting me know. So would that mean I wouldn't be allowed to do the garden on his house.

You need to check to see if the garden is included in the scheduling, if it is then not a chance.....
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby Pastseeker » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:16 pm

I'm going to give you some praise for doing the right thing and checking first! this will make you a trustworthey detectorist to any land owner and to the detecting community ::g


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Re: Am I allowed

Postby orion » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:20 pm

As you can see such a beautiful place, if only :( . I think I will call him and ask him if his garden is scheduled. The castle was built in the 1300's and has older walls around the owners garden. Shame
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby slinky » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:21 pm

orion wrote:As you can see such a beautiful place, if only :( . I think I will call him and ask him if his garden is scheduled. The castle was built in the 1300's and has older walls around the owners garden. Shame

Always best to double check and then check again! ::g ::g
It does indeed look a lovely setting, I wish you good luck with your hunting..... ::g
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby kopparberg » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:26 pm

what a lovely setting but as been said scheduled items are off limits and normally i think its not allowed within 50metres from the boundary . but good on you to ask first says a lot about you ::g
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby shoveller » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:30 pm

I got declined a permission a few weeks ago. The farmer whos land it was previously let people on his land to detect then he got in trouble himself because there are remains of a scheduled monument or something on his land. ;;z ;;z
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby zxadi » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:34 pm

orion wrote:As you can see such a beautiful place, if only :( . I think I will call him and ask him if his garden is scheduled. The castle was built in the 1300's and has older walls around the owners garden. Shame



an you wanna dig them gardens up :D
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby orion » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:37 pm

zxadi wrote:
orion wrote:As you can see such a beautiful place, if only :( . I think I will call him and ask him if his garden is scheduled. The castle was built in the 1300's and has older walls around the owners garden. Shame



an you wanna dig them gardens up :D

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Re: Am I allowed

Postby Jason5223 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:45 pm

kopparberg wrote:what a lovely setting but as been said scheduled items are off limits and normally i think its not allowed within 50metres from the boundary . but good on you to ask first says a lot about you ::g


Is that right? I never come across anything about having to be 50 mtr from the edge of a scheduled site. I thought the edge of with was the edge you could detect up to. Not that I have been that close to a scheduled site myself.
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby slinky » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:50 pm

That does indeed ring a bell, think its best to just keep well clear of any schedualed sites.....!
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby orion » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:23 pm

This is the other side. Customer showing me around. Look at that lovely patch of grass mmmmmmmmm :D Nope I'm going to do the decent thing and just do his field
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby Billy Doyle » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:41 pm

Go to this site
http://magic.defra.gov.uk/website/magic/

Select 'Design My Own Topic' in the topic section, and in the pop-up that appears choose 'Scheduled Monuments', and then click 'Done'.

Then add the postcode or grid reference etc. of the site and the resulting Map will show you which bits you cannot detect on.

Using this map you might be able to get the landowner to talk to his neighbours, whose land may NOT be scheduled, to see if they will let you detect?

The land surrounding this site is worth having a go at, as long as you stick to the bits you are allowed to detect :)

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Re: Am I allowed

Postby Trotboy » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:51 pm

The English Heritage Map is much easier to use than the Magic Map: http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/mapsearch.aspx

You can detect a scheduled site - IF YOU HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR ENGLISH HERITAGE - but that is highly unlikely. You can detect up to the boundaries, but it's advisable to allow 5-10 metres of leeway to be safe, boundaries can easily be mistaken. Don't know where the 50 Metre claim comes from, but it's not true.
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby slinky » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:56 pm

Trotboy wrote:The English Heritage Map is much easier to use than the Magic Map: http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/mapsearch.aspx

You can detect a scheduled site - IF YOU HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR ENGLISH HERITAGE - but that is highly unlikely. You can detect up to the boundaries, but it's advisable to allow 5-10 metres of leeway to be safe, boundaries can easily be mistaken. Don't know where the 50 Metre claim comes from, but it's not true.

Yeah I posted that link above. Thanks for clearing up the 50 meter thing, don't know why it rang a bell!?
Still advisable to give scheduled areas a wide berth....... ::g
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Re: Am I allowed

Postby kopparberg » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:52 pm

Trotboy wrote:The English Heritage Map is much easier to use than the Magic Map: http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/mapsearch.aspx

You can detect a scheduled site - IF YOU HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR ENGLISH HERITAGE - but that is highly unlikely. You can detect up to the boundaries, but it's advisable to allow 5-10 metres of leeway to be safe, boundaries can easily be mistaken. Don't know where the 50 Metre claim comes from, but it's not true.

probalby did'nt word it right but the boundary i am sure is about 50 metres away from the sute in either direction .only its we have a site on my companies land and we cannot go within 50 metres of it.and its wise keeping a good distance rather than going the wrong side of it. and 50 metres is not that far really. and sometimes the boundries are not very well defined
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