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Lancashire and Cumbria missing finds

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I've just heard that an arrest has been made and finds missing from Lancashire and Cumbria have been recovered. This is certainly good news for a number of finders and the hobby in general.
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Yep a great bit of news. I was contacted yesterday by the officer in charge of the police investigation and he told me that two of my items were part of those recovered.
Mind you it will take well into next year to identify all the recovered items but hey ho, they got them back [81/]
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Mancave-man wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:36 am Yep a great bit of news. I was contacted yesterday by the officer in charge of the police investigation and he told me that two of my items were part of those recovered.
Mind you it will take well into next year to identify all the recovered items but hey ho, they got them back [81/]
Oh that's excellent news!!! Fingers crossed others will be contacted with similar news. 🤞🤞👌
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Peter D. Spencer wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:19 am I've just heard that an arrest has been made and finds missing from Lancashire and Cumbria have been recovered. This is certainly good news for a number of finders and the hobby in general.
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But who's the rat and how did they get access to the finds? All will be revealed in time I'm sure.
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The NCMD issued an update a few days ago:

UPDATE - In relation to the police investigation into finds that had gone missing in the North West of England, the police have issued a statement that a man has been arrested and bailed while enquiries continue.
A number of finds have been recovered and police are currently working through them to cross reference them with the missing finds.
This is great news, but please remember it is still a live police investigation so be very careful what you post on social media as it may jeopardise the case.
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They also just issued this:

This is an ongoing Police investigation and it is really important that no one speculates as to who the arrested person is publicly or on social media!

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Detectives investigating the suspected theft of items from a Lancashire museum have arrested a man.
Earlier this year we received a report of the theft of artefacts from the Lancashire Council Museum Service.
Following further enquiries, Lancashire Police, supported by colleagues from West Mercia Police, executed a warrant in Ludlow on Friday (December 16). Further searches took place in Ludlow and Hereford.
A quantity of suspected stolen property was recovered at the address with one man arrested by officers.
If anyone has any information about the alleged thefts or believes that they can help with our enquiries, please call 101 or email forcecontrolroom@lancashire.police.uk, quoting investigation number 04/116599/22.
If you have any enquiries regarding the status of a particular find, such as whether it has been affected by this incident, then please contact the Lancashire Council Museum Service.
A 31-year-old man from Ludlow was arrested on suspicion of theft. He has been released on bail pending further enquiries.
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Great news.
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dragonsteeth71 wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:16 pm But who's the rat and how did they get access to the finds? All will be revealed in time I'm sure.
Yes, we don't really need to know the name of the individual involved, but it would be useful to know the position he held and how he had access to the finds.
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dondo wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:45 pm Yes, we don't really need to know the name of the individual involved, but it would be useful to know the position he held and how he had access to the finds.
Your suggestion would almost surely lead to a public identification of the person arrested, and bailed, which could possibly jeopardise the case?

I sincerely hope they have recovered all the missing items. Otherwise, the alleged thief could be out there right now, shifting them on. [66/]
Bradrick wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:45 pm The NCMD issued an update a few days ago ...
Brad, by what means did the NCMD issue this news? I ask because I cannot find any updates by email, in the NCMD app, or on the NCMD website.
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ManOnTheMoon wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:19 pm
Brad, by what means did the NCMD issue this news? I ask because I cannot find any updates by email, in the NCMD app, or on the NCMD website.
Both updates are from their Facebook pages MOTM. [81/]
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Bradrick wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:56 pm Both updates are from their Facebook pages MOTM. [81/]
Thanks, Brad!

There is a widespread assumption that Facebook is frequented by all. A real shame. [27/] It surely wouldn't take much for the NCMD to put it in the News section in their own app now, would it?
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ManOnTheMoon wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:19 pm Your suggestion would almost surely lead to a public identification of the person arrested, and bailed, which could possibly jeopardise the case?
To tell the truth i meant after the case, that being said how would him being identified jeopardise the case? we know the identity of most people being prosecuted, we know he's not underage.
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dondo wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:09 pm To tell the truth i meant after the case, that being said how would him being identified jeopardise the case? we know the identity of most people being prosecuted, we know he's not underage.
The statement says that a man has been 'arrested' pending further enquiries. It doesn't say that he has been 'charged'.

There would be no benefit in people knowing his identity at this stage anyway.
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Bradrick wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:56 pm The statement says that a man has been 'arrested' pending further enquiries. It doesn't say that he has been 'charged'.

There would be no benefit in people knowing his identity at this stage anyway.
This is very true. To that point even charged doesn't mean guilty. Personally, no matter what the crime, I don't think anybody should be named unless found or pleads guilty, as dirt sticks - whether true or not.
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