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Choosing a Metal Detector Updated 29/8/10

Post by Blackadder43 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:09 pm

Hopefully this may help people new to detecting to choose their first detector..

Budget
Probably the most important thing, decide how much money you want to dedicate to this hobby, other factors like mindset and patience will also have some relevance here.

Beach or land or both
Dedicated beach machines are called PI machines (pulse induction)
These machines are excellent at ignoring the heavy mineralisation of the sand and the water and salt contents.
So if you are going to hit the beaches all the time then you need to look for one of these.
For both land and beach there are a few machines that say they can do it, dont take that at face value, phone the dealers up and ask their advise..

Your mindset and levels of patience
What i mean by this is are you easily frustrated?
If so then a top of the range machine with lots of things to tweak is probably not going to be ideal for you.
You would be better with a switch on and go machine.
If you love to tinker and learn then these machines will get your detecting juices flowing and you will do well with this type of machine
A huge reason why people give this hobby up is because the machine they have bought is to complicated and gets the user frustrated.

Notching
I personaly believe this is more designed for the American detectorists, they dig a lot of parks, old houses and tot lots, they dont like to dig ring pulls etc so notching them out is something they do to save time.
Trouble with this is not many(if any) US coinage falls into the pulltab/foil range, over here its a different story.
Hammered coins often fall into this range and notching them out would make you miss them....

Weight
Some machines are very heavy to use or are unbalanced, a machine with a stonking great search coil might look good for your 20 acre field, but swinging it for more than 2 hours may realy take it out of you.
Try if possible to visit a shop and try the machine out, failing that join a club and get a feel for the machines used on a dig.
Failing that ask on the forums, more often than not someone has one or has used one and can advise you.

Unknown makes
This is just my opinion.
On a well known selling site you can often find fantastic sounding machines for £100......I personaly wouldnt buy one of these, and here in my opinion is why:
These machines are mass produced in lets say China, they are built by electronics companys but these companys do not have any detecting experience and therefore rarely have these machines set up to operate correctly.....Sure they will still find stuff, but maybe only a few inches down.....or they are so badly set up that they automaticaly discriminate between some metal items...
Also, if something goes wrong with the machine you have a hellish time trying to contact far away, foreign speaking companys....
Personaly i would stick to dealing with UK companys who sell the big names in detectors...

Research
The net and forums are awash with Field tests and reports on different machines.
Pick a couple of machines in your price range and then narrow down your research to these machines.
Dont be afraid to phone the dealers up and ask them.....also ask them what the best price they can do for you....or maybe what extras they would throw in...

Second hand machines
As with all second hand items its buyers beware.
Buying second hand from a dealer is a good way, they usualy throw in some warranty and can test the machine for you.
Buying from Fleabay.
Ask questions, do they have the reciept, why are they selling.
As for payment on fleabay i would try and draw a cheque from your credit card...I'm not 100% sure but it may give you some comeback should it turn out all wrong.....

Here is a link to one of our forum members who has kindly made a video about the Cscope 3MX, an ideal machine to start you off with...
http://www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk/vi ... =25&t=2746" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Choosing a detector

Post by Chopper » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:13 pm

Great thread mate. Perhaps this could be 'stickied' for easy reference.
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Post by tim66 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:58 pm

Blackadder43 wrote:
Your mindset and levels of patience.
To put in my tuppenceworth, for what its worth :))

Personally I think this is as important as the machine itself, cause the detector will only ever perform as well as the human behind it.

After watching a selection of different detectorists with various machines on recent digs I'm guessing a new detectorist with good technique and a cheap machine could probably find at least as much, if not more than the impatient deuss swinging "professional" in a head to head :-/
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Post by liamnolan » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:34 am

Great post Bruce and I also agree that this post should be flagged up for easy reference for anyone coming into the world of detecting. It covers so much of the usual questions, well done, Liam
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Post by martin123 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:30 pm

nice one
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Post by FUBAR » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:31 pm

Hi matey,
This is good sound advice. Well written. :)

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Post by trenchdiggabob » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:05 am

this post helped me alot and tick all the boxs i needed to know cheers matey :)
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Post by Rayzor » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:04 am

Excellent help here, Its made my mind up.

I started the above mentioned way, bough one of those cheap £40 ones from fleabay, I found myself whacking trees with it 'if in doubt give it a clout' frustration mode with it, The detector eventually had a break down and just constantly screamed when i turned it on, so it found its self ever so gently rammed in the wheelie bin!.

I then spent almost £100 on my next mass produced Hong Kong built POS, That rapidly found its way back to ebay.

Next buy was my Bounty hunter quick draw II. Reconditioned from reputable shop.
When out searching old fields with my uncle, (he also had a quickdraw II) that looked like they had never seen man nor beast for many years, 6 inches down appears a brand new looking redbull can!!!. Night after night, nothing but old bits of metal and rubbish, rusty buckets and paint tins were a common find.
The only finds that I had with it that was good enough to take home were some old pennies and a half crown from our local park, but!!! more frustrating than anything else was the stacks of coins my lady found when we were together, and she has a £27 detector!!!.
After another session of erratic signals, trenches dug and 'detects' vanishing, I decided enough was enough and fired it onto fleabay. (believe me, I spent hours n hours detecting with different settings and discrim modes).

Ive spent the day going through many sites weighing up the pro's n cons of the mid to high range detectors out there and have decided not to break the bank and go for the mentioned 3MX. Im a bit unsure of the 8 x AA baterries weight, but lets hope I find something valueable enough to keep me stocked up on them.

But this time it will be purchased new and with a warranty.

Oh, Im Ray, ladyluck29's unlucky detecting partner. Hi everyone.
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Post by Blackadder43 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:11 am

Hello and welcome Rayzor
I am glad you have now found a detector you can settle with.....
Just a thought but you could use rechargeables in your machine....
I purchased 16 Eneloop (use 8 and 8 as back-up) rechargeables for my machine and a charger for £36 delivered, a month ago they became break even, so technicaly i am now in profit as regards buying standard batterys...
Good luck with the machine, any questions then ask away, we have quite a few members using this machine.......
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Post by Rayzor » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:09 am

Ive found one here, http://www.subtech.co.uk/cs3mx-p-43.html
£215.00 incl VAT & £6.95 UK delivery Anyone know if there is any new ones for sale any cheaper before i click buy?.
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Post by mrix » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:58 am

Thats a really good price and I cant see you finding better :)
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Post by monkeybaby » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:43 am

Detecnics were £220 including delivery and coil cover. Boxed bargains bit, Thats where I got mine, fast next day delivery and nice to deal with.

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Post by jackal » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:07 pm

This is my dilemma at the moment which machine to opt for, Finacial reasons play a part so you have to begin with what you have.. Then which one for beach and inland i don;t think you could get better than the minelab SOV GT or the older versions if you wanted a machine to cover the two..

There are negative points granted recovery speed on the Sovs is not the best inland and they do "null" out over iron where you could miss a target close to iron..

Or do you opt for recovery speed where top brands XP for example which have a great reputation for recovery speed and are well known machines for working amongst the nails.. It's a difficult one but i think if you target a well known make and machine you will do ok...

I always look for machines on sale alot sometimes you will get one that is more prominent than another and their is a reason why people are selling them, Might be something to bare in mind when you are trying to choose another machine..

Personal preference i try and stick to minelabs or the XP machines..

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Post by artdemole » Fri May 13, 2011 9:29 am

:( I purchased an Orbiter-Prospector t150 from a well known catalog /shop.The connecting bolt of head to shaft wore away in a few months.Tried on web and through store but no nylon bolt of same size could be found.So have now purchased another bolt of next thickness up.Now have to drill the hole to fit new bolt.That machine did not cost a lot but so disappointed when things like that happen.

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Post by mark1234 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:12 am

i went for a garrett250,works well,bright yellow,see it from miles away,tad heavy,downsides,loves tiny bits of foil.suprised it likes the beach as well,no sound control,use with headphones with volume control,for the price i was shocked at how well it works,just placeing my sun glasses on so i can use it

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Post by UPINSMOKE » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:48 pm

Rayzor wrote:Ive found one here, http://www.subtech.co.uk/cs3mx-p-43.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
£215.00 incl VAT & £6.95 UK delivery Anyone know if there is any new ones for sale any cheaper before i click buy?.
Try here http://www.detecnicks.co.uk/c-scope-metal-detectors.htm i think cheepest I have found so far. Hope it helps. :D
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Post by cport80 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:09 am

tim66 wrote:After watching a selection of different detectorists with various machines on recent digs I'm guessing a new detectorist with good technique and a cheap machine could probably find at least as much, if not more than the impatient deuss swinging "professional" in a head to head :-/
Yes this has recently been proven by mrs Glenfiddich. Part of it may be down to luck as you can only find things if you walk over them and no doubt she had more experience with her machine than we had with the deus. Having a machine suited to the conditions is more likely to bring up finds than just having a top end detector so for stubble fields I would recommend looking for a machine with good accessories available. Either a smaller accessory coil (so you can get down between the stalks) or a larger coil (so you can go over the tops).

P.s. In my defence I was not impatient and I usually do beach & pasture so the stubble was a whole new experience for me on this occasion. I am now carefully rethinking my machine collection though. It would have been better to get it right the first time but you live & learn. At least this topic gets another bump which will be useful to anyone just starting out. :)
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Post by Tombs » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:51 pm

tim66 wrote:
Blackadder43 wrote:
Your mindset and levels of patience.


After watching a selection of different detectorists with various machines on recent digs I'm guessing a new detectorist with good technique and a cheap machine could probably find at least as much, if not more than the impatient deuss swinging "professional" in a head to head :-/
oww thats going to upset glen lol
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Post by cport80 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:24 am

Tombs wrote: oww thats going to upset glen lol
I doubt it; it was written well before Glen got his deus. He has 10,000+ acres to go and practice on which are going to be giving up new finds. :D
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Post by Frenchie25 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:06 pm

Hi All,

I'm currently using a Garrett ace 250, good machine although I agree with the previous poster it can be a bit anoying that it goes off for every tiny little piece of foil and led. (although this allowed me to find a beutiful little short cross led token the other day about a mile from sibton abbey!
Anyway what I did want to say is that if people do want a very cheap detector to get started, I started off with a £80 logitek machine, although I know I probably missed every single hammered I went over (except one that was actually sticking out of the ground!) I did find loads of larger coppers and a beutiful bronze age axe head because it was totally ignoring the smaller signals you ended up covering more ground therefore finding more finds!
I wouldn't want to go back to it now, but to start out I think it can be quite a good machine to use as you are at least finding quite a few things!
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