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Roger Goodier wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:14 pmCan some one say is verbal permission enough in law when there is a valuble find or should all permissions be written .Just had a problem with owners who say I did not have permission to be on .fortunatly There were 2 witnesses when permision was granted.
Always written never trust anyone its protects you and the landowner, i have been stopped twice by the police asking to see my permission and the estate manager when phoned said i did not have permission. If i did not have the contract on paper i could have been in trouble(new estate manager didn't know i had permission from the landowner)
But if you knock on a farmers door and he gives you permission you probably would have no witnesses to prove it so if they were unscrupulous it would be just your word against thiers.
With some landowners the idea of a written contract would result in an immediate "NO" to your request to detect while the good old fashioned handshake would be a "YES".
I have nothing in writing with any of my landowners. But what I do when I get a permission is to send them an e-mail thanking them for very kindly letting me detect thier land, and repeating that I am a member of the NCMD and fully insured and follow the code of cconduct, and providing a link to the NCMD website.
This is NOT done so that I have proof but as a "thank you" and to show I am a responsible detectorist. Out of curitesy I also give them updates of what I have found (normally very little!)
But in the worst case it would be evidence that I had the permission.
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They just laughed and said they didn't expect me to find any thing which so far is proving right but I live in hope.
If I see any of them I give them an update on finds to date (mostly farming junk) and at end of year take along pictures of finds and a nice bottle of port as a thank you.
I suppose the proof in the pudding will be if I find something valuable.
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My other permissions are all smaller and verbal, although I always text the land owner before I arrive, when I leave, and following up with an account of what I found. I therefore have electronic copies of all correspondence, which would go a long way to providing proof that I had permission.
I think my farmers must be fed up of text about horseshoes, bullets, cans, grotty coins and of course bottle caps
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