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First permission attempts
Newbie here, currently seeking my first permissions. I will be heading out to farms and such to ask face to face, but I have emailed a handful and had responses. Unfortunately no permissions yet but very polite responses mostly.
Any tips that you believe have helped you obtain a permission when making a request?
Any tips that you believe have helped you obtain a permission when making a request?
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Alas its getting harder and harder to get permissions these days especially just after christmas when folks usually get a new detector,decades ago it was as easy as anything and as luck would have it i still have a fair few left.
Face to face is still in my opinion the best way but farmers/landowners must be getting very tired of folks asking them these days,also the big clubs which can offer a large wad of notes to detect said land is becoming the norm as well.
Good luck and i seriously hope you can get some land to detect on,but give the land owner total respect as i have found that once one permission is gained it can open doors to other nearby landowners as well.
Face to face is still in my opinion the best way but farmers/landowners must be getting very tired of folks asking them these days,also the big clubs which can offer a large wad of notes to detect said land is becoming the norm as well.
Good luck and i seriously hope you can get some land to detect on,but give the land owner total respect as i have found that once one permission is gained it can open doors to other nearby landowners as well.
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Have you checked this link out regarding Permission?
viewforum.php?f=11
and this one which is more specific to the period 'post lockdown'
viewtopic.php?t=124699
A good browse of the blue panel will reveal all manner of detecting related information and is strongly recommended![ThumbsUp [81/]](./images/smilies/81_EmoticonsHDcom.png)
Good Luck. Regards Eric
viewforum.php?f=11
and this one which is more specific to the period 'post lockdown'
viewtopic.php?t=124699
A good browse of the blue panel will reveal all manner of detecting related information and is strongly recommended
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Good Luck. Regards Eric
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100% would ensure they have my full respectMega B wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:33 pm Alas its getting harder and harder to get permissions these days especially just after christmas when folks usually get a new detector,decades ago it was as easy as anything and as luck would have it i still have a fair few left.
Face to face is still in my opinion the best way but farmers/landowners must be getting very tired of folks asking them these days,also the big clubs which can offer a large wad of notes to detect said land is becoming the norm as well.
Good luck and i seriously hope you can get some land to detect on,but give the land owner total respect as i have found that once one permission is gained it can open doors to other nearby landowners as well.
Yeah it's hard to imagine someone allowing you on for free when they've likely been approached by countless people, potentially had bad examples in the past or have clubs offering them money.
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Farmers are a canny bunch so to get noticed do your homework. They get loads of visitors with the inevitable " can i detect your land " whilst standing there in full camo gear with plenty of neck tats looking like they have just been released from prison. Oh and i / we will show you what we find.
Now before the incoming, that is the opinion of my cousin who farms a few thousand acres of Yorkshire and is sick of permission seekers knocking on the door at all times of the day including Sunday lunch. So be aware that most farmers these days hold a very negative opinion of those asking permission. With my cousin you would not get more than two words out of him if you were to ask and the second one is "off".
He is actually a nice chap ( i would say that as i have sole permission to search his land ), but the pestering ( and abuse sometimes when he says no ), he gets when harvest starts is a real issue so his threshold of respect to others has been seriously eroded. He even has a hand painted sign near to the farm entrance showing a detectorist with the words " dont even ask " in bold, yet they still wander about the yard looking for someone to ask before pounding on the farm door waking him up from a well earned nap.
You are entering a hobby which began over 40 years ago and in that time most of the landowners who are or were willing to give permission have detectorists already on their land either as individuals, a club or the pay to search never find a thing groups. It is very competative and will only get more so.
Hence do your homework, chose your time to call, be polite, dress as if going for a job interview and if you dont get the "get lost" response have your pitch ready. There is always a chance you will be given the benefit of the doubt and remember you will not be the first to ask.
Remember that all finds belong to the landowner and all you are asking for is permission to use your detector and if granted then you need to sort out an arrangement with respect to any finds. Follow their rules and regulations and dont abuse their trust in you by turning up with a bunch of mates without asking and so on. A lot is common sense and think of the situation if you were the landowner giving permission to someone you have never met, know nothing about and would you trust them.
On a final thought if they already have someone searching the land walk away rather than try to muscle in as it always ends in tears to get on the wrong side of someone who has done the hard work of getting permission in the first place.
Now before the incoming, that is the opinion of my cousin who farms a few thousand acres of Yorkshire and is sick of permission seekers knocking on the door at all times of the day including Sunday lunch. So be aware that most farmers these days hold a very negative opinion of those asking permission. With my cousin you would not get more than two words out of him if you were to ask and the second one is "off".
He is actually a nice chap ( i would say that as i have sole permission to search his land ), but the pestering ( and abuse sometimes when he says no ), he gets when harvest starts is a real issue so his threshold of respect to others has been seriously eroded. He even has a hand painted sign near to the farm entrance showing a detectorist with the words " dont even ask " in bold, yet they still wander about the yard looking for someone to ask before pounding on the farm door waking him up from a well earned nap.
You are entering a hobby which began over 40 years ago and in that time most of the landowners who are or were willing to give permission have detectorists already on their land either as individuals, a club or the pay to search never find a thing groups. It is very competative and will only get more so.
Hence do your homework, chose your time to call, be polite, dress as if going for a job interview and if you dont get the "get lost" response have your pitch ready. There is always a chance you will be given the benefit of the doubt and remember you will not be the first to ask.
Remember that all finds belong to the landowner and all you are asking for is permission to use your detector and if granted then you need to sort out an arrangement with respect to any finds. Follow their rules and regulations and dont abuse their trust in you by turning up with a bunch of mates without asking and so on. A lot is common sense and think of the situation if you were the landowner giving permission to someone you have never met, know nothing about and would you trust them.
On a final thought if they already have someone searching the land walk away rather than try to muscle in as it always ends in tears to get on the wrong side of someone who has done the hard work of getting permission in the first place.
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Some great advice, thankyou.geoman wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:58 pm Farmers are a canny bunch so to get noticed do your homework. They get loads of visitors with the inevitable " can i detect your land " whilst standing there in full camo gear with plenty of neck tats looking like they have just been released from prison. Oh and i / we will show you what we find.
Now before the incoming, that is the opinion of my cousin who farms a few thousand acres of Yorkshire and is sick of permission seekers knocking on the door at all times of the day including Sunday lunch. So be aware that most farmers these days hold a very negative opinion of those asking permission. With my cousin you would not get more than two words out of him if you were to ask and the second one is "off".
He is actually a nice chap ( i would say that as i have sole permission to search his land ), but the pestering ( and abuse sometimes when he says no ), he gets when harvest starts is a real issue so his threshold of respect to others has been seriously eroded. He even has a hand painted sign near to the farm entrance showing a detectorist with the words " dont even ask " in bold, yet they still wander about the yard looking for someone to ask before pounding on the farm door waking him up from a well earned nap.
You are entering a hobby which began over 40 years ago and in that time most of the landowners who are or were willing to give permission have detectorists already on their land either as individuals, a club or the pay to search never find a thing groups. It is very competative and will only get more so.
Hence do your homework, chose your time to call, be polite, dress as if going for a job interview and if you dont get the "get lost" response have your pitch ready. There is always a chance you will be given the benefit of the doubt and remember you will not be the first to ask.
Remember that all finds belong to the landowner and all you are asking for is permission to use your detector and if granted then you need to sort out an arrangement with respect to any finds. Follow their rules and regulations and dont abuse their trust in you by turning up with a bunch of mates without asking and so on. A lot is common sense and think of the situation if you were the landowner giving permission to someone you have never met, know nothing about and would you trust them.
On a final thought if they already have someone searching the land walk away rather than try to muscle in as it always ends in tears to get on the wrong side of someone who has done the hard work of getting permission in the first place.
I can't imagine what's going through someone's head to abuse/argue with any landowner who says no, ridiculous decision to argue and only causes more friction/damage to the hobby.
Don't ask for the whole farm on first contact, just ask for one or two fields first. Once trust has been built up, more land will come your way.
I managed to gain a new permission this morning on land that has never (legally) been detected on as the landowner has never given permission and he has lived there for over sixty years. I got the permission by gaining his trust through working with him at our local history group and helping him research his family history. There are always different ways to skin a cat, knocking on the door isn't the only way to gain permissions.
I managed to gain a new permission this morning on land that has never (legally) been detected on as the landowner has never given permission and he has lived there for over sixty years. I got the permission by gaining his trust through working with him at our local history group and helping him research his family history. There are always different ways to skin a cat, knocking on the door isn't the only way to gain permissions.
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Face to face and word of mouth is favourite. Once you get on somewhere which you will with persistence you then have your stepping stone for the second place. The first might seem the hardest but it will come... If you are seen detecting on someones land who has given you permission to detect the person who owns that land probably knows alike people and they will feel a lot more comfortable to invite you on to their land and so on... Remember anything will do to get the ball rolling...Orchard, caravan park, big yard, building land, whatever.....You don`t need acres and acres you`ll never cover it all!!.....Good luck and let us know when you get your first one..... ![ThumbsUp [81/]](./images/smilies/81_EmoticonsHDcom.png)
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Just a thought, I can't help thinking as a former Health & Safety officer, there would be some reluctance if not outright opposition to allowing metal detecting in the grounds of a caravan Park which importantly need to be kept in top surface condition to attract customers.
Another reason would be the existence of potential hazards not least of which are the electric cables which serve individual pitch sites and the possibility of dug turf flaps becoming dislodged by rabbits etc to create 'trip' hazards. Cheers Eric
Another reason would be the existence of potential hazards not least of which are the electric cables which serve individual pitch sites and the possibility of dug turf flaps becoming dislodged by rabbits etc to create 'trip' hazards. Cheers Eric
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Hi Eric, I agree 100%. The way my mind was working a field at the back which at present they are not using or surrounding land which is not suitable for caravans or static homes, somthing like that. Most do have a lot of land.....sweepstick47 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:18 pm Just a thought, I can't help thinking as a former Health & Safety officer, there would be some reluctance if not outright opposition to allowing metal detecting in the grounds of a caravan Park which importantly need to be kept in top surface condition to attract customers.
Another reason would be the existence of potential hazards not least of which are the electric cables which serve individual pitch sites and the possibility of dug turf flaps becoming dislodged by rabbits etc to create 'trip' hazards. Cheers Eric
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I have my first one! Granted via email. I'm currently recovering from a surgery so I haven't been able to get out face to face just yet. Owner has had the land 20yrs, undetected to his knowledge and was told it was an ancient burial site (but not confirmed). Apparently had 2 people ask before but they never showed, which shocks me especially if he had given that info to them as well!KevinB wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:49 pm Face to face and word of mouth is favourite. Once you get on somewhere which you will with persistence you then have your stepping stone for the second place. The first might seem the hardest but it will come... If you are seen detecting on someones land who has given you permission to detect the person who owns that land probably knows alike people and they will feel a lot more comfortable to invite you on to their land and so on... Remember anything will do to get the ball rolling...Orchard, caravan park, big yard, building land, whatever.....You don`t need acres and acres you`ll never cover it all!!.....Good luck and let us know when you get your first one.....![]()
Hoping I can manage at least 1 or 2 days before the end of Feb as I'm unable to detect the land between March-Oct
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Told you so .......Right???MrKeen92 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:02 pm I have my first one! Granted via email. I'm currently recovering from a surgery so I haven't been able to get out face to face just yet. Owner has had the land 20yrs, undetected to his knowledge and was told it was an ancient burial site (but not confirmed). Apparently had 2 people ask before but they never showed, which shocks me especially if he had given that info to them as well!
Hoping I can manage at least 1 or 2 days before the end of Feb as I'm unable to detect the land between March-Oct
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Believe in youself and it is amazing what you can achieve!!.. Don`t worry about March-Oct it`s money in the bank......
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Yeah not too focused on the months I can't use, I'm sure they'll be other permissions that come around which can fill the voidKevinB wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:28 pm Told you so .......Right???![]()
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