Belfast City Council bye laws

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Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Heavymetaldetector » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:41 pm

Does anyone know what bye laws or regulations exist with regards to metal detecting on Belfast City Council property, apart from the treasure acts. as far as I can see no such bye laws exist. I've e-mailed the council to find out. if they dont want us doing it then fair enough but I want to see something on paper.



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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:25 pm

hi mate , did you hear anything back :-/
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Heavymetaldetector » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:27 pm

Just an acknowledgement so far, said they'll respond in due course. I reckon as I say it's ok as long as I steer clear of the scheduled monuments, but would like something on paper i can shove in that wee Hitler's face if he comes up to me again.

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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:26 pm

lol , i take it someone was giving you hastle
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Cynergy » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:57 pm

Time Tit Tony said detecting in Ireland was banned!
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Heavymetaldetector » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:41 am

Aye some wee man taking walking tours up the cavehill, had a green jumper with a badge on it saying 'Cavehill country parks', upon further questioning he revealed he 'wasnt speaking as someone of authority' - so why was he talking to me then?? I packed up anyway because he just looked the type would try to cause trouble.

i cant stand people like that, it comes to something when you cant get away from petty minded little bureaucrats when you're halfway up a mountain!!

as far as I'm concerned it says quite clearly that as long as I'm nowhere near the scheduled monuments, then i'm within the law.

@ Cynergy, I'm in Northern Ireland so although are laws are slightly tighter than yours, they're not as draconian as the Republic's.

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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:55 am

there's always one mate :)
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by onthebeach » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:06 am

cant stand people like that, it comes to something when you cant get away from petty minded little bureaucrats when you're halfway up a mountain!!

Hi and he probably had not got a clue what you were doing, maybe you were an employee of NIE looking for an underground cable.
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:19 am

just one of the reasons why i carry a big spade :))
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Ern in Japan » Sun May 29, 2011 12:16 pm

Hey mate,

Did you ever get a reply from the council about their policy on detecting on their land?

Will be getting back home in the summer and thinking about bringing my detector and wondering about who to contact in the council to get permission to detect in the parks in Derry/Londonderry

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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Heavymetaldetector » Sun May 29, 2011 10:44 pm

Hello Ern, aye they said that whilst it isn't illegal they probably wouldnt give permission as most of their land was of archaelogical interest, but they couldn't identify any actual by law. As far as i'm concerned it should only count if you're near a scheduled moment but it would take it to go through a court case to settle it.

They did say that years ago they worked with an organisation called the northern Ireland Metal Detecting Federation or something like that, and that I could get a license for certain parks etc, but they didnt have any contact details and as far as I could see no such organisation exists! Typical this place, just say no to everything whether you have a reason or not.

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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by SilverShark » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:19 pm

If they are saying it isn't illegal then technically you are not breaking any laws in doing it?

Is this not a bit of a grey area?

Though I can't think of too many parks that would be good to detect on.

On another note, do we need a licence over here to search on the beach like they do in the UK?
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by SilverShark » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:34 pm

Just found the link to get the licence for the beach... :D
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by yorky55 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:23 pm

Isn't it always the case wherever you go there's a "jobsworth" poking his /her nose in
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Heavymetaldetector » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:55 pm

Too right mate, even halfway up a mountain you're not safe! Yeah it's a grey area but I've spotted a few wee bits of land about I'm thinking of trying.

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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by SilverShark » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:29 pm

I would love to have a go on the site of that derelict chapel on the Antrim road.

The google maps view of it looks great.

Highly unlikely to get permission for it though. :(
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:15 am

i think i know the one you mean gary . when i was younger we used to go to it to scare ourselves :)) im sure there would be a few coins knocking about there B-)
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:25 am

just looked it up its called the chapel of the resurrection if thats any good . sorry for hijacking your thread jim ;)
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by SilverShark » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:36 am

Am sure it would have scared the crap out of you when younger. Surprising they let it go to such ruin.

Seems some sort of restoration going on there now Jim but no mention anywhere who actually owns it.
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:56 am

on the map it says c of i , church of ireland ? did you get sorted with a machine yet
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Hornchurch » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:16 am

Well if the " Northern Ireland Metal Detecting Federation" no longer exists, get your printer out & reform it. you can be the founder member! ;)
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by johny-blaze » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:25 am

sorry hob , not with you mate :-/
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Re: Belfast City Council bye laws

Post by Hornchurch » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:06 pm

Well i was suggesting that if you were that club you could renegotiate the permissions!
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