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Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:50 pm

I am about to purchase my first metal detector a Garrett 400, however I have concern whether some niggling health issues will affect me in my new hobby.
I intend to use my detector on beaches both home and abroad mainly on dry sand.
I have problems with both knees and due to operations etc I am unable to kneel on either knee. I also have a problem with a disc in my lower back which means I have difficulty bending down.
Digging for objects will prove very difficult.
On a plus note however I am able to walk for miles.
As I intend to operate on mainly soft sand do you think I could use my metal detector effectively using just a hand scoop on a pole to lift coins etc

Kind regards,

Gwyn



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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Oxgirl36 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:45 pm

Hi Gwyn and welcome. I’ve moved your post to the beach section as some of our members might be able to offer specific beach advice that might help you ::g

Good luck and hope your health issues don’t get in the way of enjoying the hobby.
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:55 pm

Thank you so much Oxgirl36.

Yes I am looking forward to my new found hobby.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Rex fraser » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:02 pm

Hi Gwyn if you look on Regton metal detector shop, have a look they have a long handle sand scoop
This would help you not to bend down to much. Regards Rex

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:12 pm

Hi Rex,

Yes I have just noticed that. Thank you.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:14 pm

Thanks Rex. Just come across it. Looks perfect for me.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by sweepstick47 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:19 pm

Hello again Gwyn ::g Some good advice already given above ::g

Given your circumstances, taking the options available (long handled scoop) I can't see any reason to doubt your ability to detect the dry sand areas of beaches without suffering undue discomfort or fatigue::g You will be aware of your limitations so just take the appropriate care and I'm sure you'll be fine and hopefully rewarded with a few good finds.::g

I think your choice of detector is a popular one for detecting the dry sand beach areas.
All the best and Good Luck ::g Regards ss47
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:31 pm

Thank you Sweepstick47. Reassuring on my choice of machine and accessories. Grateful for your input.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Devonboy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:42 pm

Hi Gwynn,

As others have said a long handled scoop would serve you well on the wet or dry sand. When I use mine on dry sand I very rarely bend down or use a pointer, I simply locate the target, tip the scoop’s target onto a clear parch of sand and part the contents with my foot to reduce the pile (sweeping the coil over the now smaller piles) and then scoop the pile containing the target. At this stage it’s easy to shake the scoop’s contents to reveal the find. Very often you will find the target by moving the sand with your foot and then scooping it with a small amount of sand.
if you are in the South Devon area you are welcome to try my scoop.

Bast of luck. ::g

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Iced Tiger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:00 pm

Hello Gwynn, another vote for the long handled sand scoop, have not looked back since I purchased mine. Some good ones on the famous selling site as well. Happy Hunting ::g
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:19 am

Thank you Tony and Iced Tiger for your responses. All the replies received have given me the reassurance I need to get started.

I may have given the wrong impression. I am only 62, fit and active apart from a lower disc problem and not being able to kneel - which is common to anyone who has had knee replacements etc

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Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Quoin » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:28 am

I have some back issues but I find that I can squat ok and I actually think the squatting helps my back. It might be an option if your knees can take it.

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:38 pm

Thanks Quoin.

I am getting an Evolution 360 beach sand scoop to go with the Garrett 400 I.

To keep my start up costs as low as possible would a normal broom handle be suitable for the scoop?

Sorry if I sound a skinflint but starting to find start up cost difficult to justify to my wife,despite the fact she is very supportive with me taking up this hobby.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Dave The Slave » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:06 pm

Hello Gwyn.

Firstly welcome to what will become an addictive hobby.
Not only the actual detecting but finding out about the objects you have recovered, even if they seem mundane to non detectorists.
Don`t actually use a sand scoop as I am lucky enough to be able to kneel down. My spade for dry sand is actually a childs` beach spade, plastic with a wooden shaft and have been using it for at least 10 years, a recycled eyes only, even have a spare in the shed. Mainly do dry sand .
400i will give a good depth, had mine around 18 months, very easy to use. If you need any help with it, quite a few people on here use the same machine.
Good luck and look forward to seeing some of your finds.
Cheers ::g
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:17 pm

Dave The Slave wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:06 pm
Hello Gwyn.

Firstly welcome to what will become an addictive hobby.
Not only the actual detecting but finding out about the objects you have recovered, even if they seem mundane to non detectorists.
Don`t actually use a sand scoop as I am lucky enough to be able to kneel down. My spade for dry sand is actually a childs` beach spade, plastic with a wooden shaft and have been using it for at least 10 years, a recycled eyes only, even have a spare in the shed. Mainly do dry sand .
400i will give a good depth, had mine around 18 months, very easy to use. If you need any help with it, quite a few people on here use the same machine.
Good luck and look forward to seeing some of your finds.
Cheers ::g
Dave.
That is brilliant . Thank you so much Dave.

I am not a "tekky" person and no doubt will have a bit of difficulty getting used to the detector. I have had a look at some "you tube" footage which has given me a bit of a start.

I probably will have to make use of your and others experience, when I get going.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Devonboy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:27 pm

Hi Gwyn,

When your scoop comes you may find the diameter of a broom handle too small for the scoop, I and others use a pitch fork handle for our scoops. These can be purchased from farm supply shops.
I’m still using mine after nearly 4 years, I must admit I don’t detect as often as others though.

Tony

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Post by lammy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:46 pm

Hi Gwyn, may i say i have lost the use of my right arm , totally and lost discs t7 to t13 also my legs are not good but all i can say is try your best and enjoy what you do and the way you do it, do not worry if your not doing it right as long as you enjoy. I do 98;
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:26 am

Excellent point Lammy. Well done.

Maybe too much analysis on my part.

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Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:34 pm

Devonboy wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:27 pm
Hi Gwyn,

When your scoop comes you may find the diameter of a broom handle too small for the scoop, I and others use a pitch fork handle for our scoops. These can be purchased from farm supply shops.
I’m still using mine after nearly 4 years, I must admit I don’t detect as often as others though.

Tony
Thank you Devonboy. Sorry your response slipped through the net my end.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:42 pm

Could someone advise please ?

Can the Garrett 400 be folded down to be carried in a rucksack?

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Devon steve » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:09 pm

Optimistic Jack wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:42 pm
Could someone advise please ?

Can the Garrett 400 be folded down to be carried in a rucksack?

Kind regards,

Gwyn

Hi mate I'm a newbie too. I would say look at the box size they come in and that the size ruck sack you'll need. Sorry can't be more help. Steve
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by stjimmy1980 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:12 pm

Optimistic Jack wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:42 pm
Could someone advise please ?

Can the Garrett 400 be folded down to be carried in a rucksack?

Kind regards,

Gwyn
it doesn't fold down as such but breaks down into 3 pieces
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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by domelec » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:12 pm

The Garretts come apart the same way as walking crouches do
If you haven't bought the scoop yet then look at the sito scoop, these are 3mm thick and £60 to buy
And for handle I went to Homebase's and bought a 35mm dia length of doweling for £10.50 which I cut into two, 1 half for my scoop and other for my wife's
There's a little movement but not too bad

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Re: Newbie advice please

Post by Optimistic Jack » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:04 am

Thanks to all for your advice.

Kind regards,

Gwyn

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