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Magnet Fishing safety - post your advice/tips

Post by Fusion » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:28 pm

As we've recently seen in the news, magnet fishing is not without it's dangers.
I thought it would be worthwhile compiling any safety-related advice together in one thread, for the benefit of those who do it, and those considering trying it.

So if anyone has experience, do share your ideas. If you've seen any good internet links, please post them. Please try and keep it on-topic and serious, there are other threads for general chit-chat about whether it's worth doing, and what you can expect to find.

Here's one beginners guide I found, which includes some safety-related tips:
https://detectorreviews.co.uk/guide-to-magnet-fishing/

And a safety guide for strong magnets; transport, handling, etc:
https://www.first4magnets.com/tech-cent ... mation-i73

I've yet to try magnet fishing, but one thing I thought would make sense is this:
Rather than tying your rope to the magnet loop with a knot, simply loop a length of rope through the magnet loop. Then you hold both ends of the rope. If your magnet becomes completely stuck (mechanically or magnetically), you can abandon it, and recover the rope. It seems less risky than trying to pull up 400kg of who-knows-what, then having to throw your rope in, too.
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Re: Magnet Fishing safety - your advice/tips

Post by Doc Phibes » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:42 pm

That's a terrific idea!
Our Para cord is of a relatively low diameter and I think it might be worth binding the loop together at regular intervals with something that would easily break away in the event of a serious snag. Light breaking strain fishing line might serve or perhaps tape of some kind?
I'd defo carry a compact travel first aid kit, as you would for other outdoorsy activities.
And a small bottle of sterile water to flush out any small cuts or grazes .
Although decent gloves should prevent that.
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Post by Koala » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:03 pm

Alcohol and near water don't mix

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Re: Magnet Fishing safety - your advice/tips

Post by oldartefact » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:31 pm

A few safety tips ... from someone who has zero experience...
WW Bombs and ordnance are made from iron, magnets attract iron.
Knives and guns are disposed of in deep water... magnets attach themselves to this stuff.
Deep water and wellies do not mix.
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Post by Rivers rat » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:37 pm

Gloves long sleeves t-shirt or sweat shirt........i tend to tight the rope around my arm when needed and it can leave some nasty marks a bit like 50 shades of grey but outdoor :D :D :D :D

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Post by Koala » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:44 pm

I'd wear thick gloves


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Re: Magnet Fishing safety - your advice/tips

Post by Easylife » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:41 pm

oldartefact wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:31 pm
A few safety tips ... from someone who has zero experience...
WW Bombs and ordnance are made from iron, magnets attract iron.
Knives and guns are disposed of in deep water... magnets attach themselves to this stuff.
Deep water and wellies do not mix.
That's pretty much my thoughts also OA, I think I'll stick to land as I don't mind just the occasional live round. ::g
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Post by Easylife » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:41 pm

My tip would be just don't do it. ::g
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Post by Koala » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:26 am

Wonder how you stand

Pull up 3 bikes and a few bits and bobs.

Take them to the scrap metal yard and one of the bikes turns out to be stolen. Quite likely

It would be traced back to your bank account and Reg Number

Would take some explaining down the station.

Hello hello what have we here.

Well officer it's like this I tied some rope to a magnet and went fishing for metal.

Did you have permission

No

So you admit you when went equiped to steal


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Post by Resurgam » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:03 am

Easylife wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:41 pm
My tip would be just don't do it. ::g
I would have said............never magnet fish alone but the recent incident has proved that isn't a guarantee of safety. Although magnet fishing sounded initially attractive and interesting to me, I will not be following up on my initial interest. I think that I also need to review the safety of some of my metal detecting practices!

Stay safe out there

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Post by beep-and-dig » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:04 pm

Life Jackets, not expensive, and do save lives.

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Re: Magnet Fishing safety - your advice/tips

Post by Fusion » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:32 pm

So it seems gloves are a must-have:
#Stops you injuring yourself on sharp/rusty/dirty objects
#Prevents rope-burn and could provide better grip on the rope
#Protects against water-borne diseases
#Reduces the severity of pinch injuries due to strong magnet attraction

It would be wise for newcomers to start off with modest size/strength magnets, and progress to strong ones only when they feel capable.

And be aware of the ground you're standing on: it may not be flat, it could be slippy due to grit/gravel, moss, water, and there may be trip hazards, as well as the obvious edge of the canal/river itself.
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Post by Resurgam » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm

Wellies are fine for keeping yer feet dry but what if you fall in. I would suggest leaving the wellies in the car or at home; perhaps the same would go for heavy boots with metal toe caps. I think the lifebelt was a superb idea. ::g
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Post by brianc » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:38 pm

Quite a few negative responses I note - but not without foundation and some very good advice to heed.

The distressing incident on the canal that took two lives is tragic and proves that when in the vicinity of water accidents may and can happen.

On the positive side, I have a magnet on a piece of rope that I researched and have made up based on experienced advice.

A good pair of strong gloves are paramount along with a decent sized container for finds and trash. Perhaps a camera would be handy in case you find any dodgy stuff so that you can prove your innocence!

If you have the all important permission to search on both sides of the water then you will be OK to handle finds that have been deposited - this is in line with the ethics and the law of metal detecting.

I have a small stream on my permission that is about 6 feet wide at most and maybe two feet deep.

I have yet to cast the metal to the metal as it were, but I will post my experience on how it goes when I get the opportunity.
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Post by Doc Phibes » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:21 pm

This magnet fishing malarkey isn't quite as straight forward as it seems๐Ÿ˜‰
I haven't cast mine out in anger yet but hopefully will be fairly soon.
Incidentally, I've sent a brief message to the Harbour Masters office at Weymouth asking if I'd could be permitted to drop a magnet from the walls of the stone pier...well away from any vessels.
I'm not entirely sure I'll be getting a thumbs up but worth a try.
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Post by targets » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:14 pm

not worth it for some old bit of rubbish .canals dont contain a wealth of riches just most likely junk..they get silted up too.. if the magnet gets stuck on some old tat dont keep tugging as you will tug yourself in ..the most you might find is a bayonet or rusty gun or horse shoe or an old gas cooker
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Post by SuperRed » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:29 pm

targets wrote: โ†‘
Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:14 pm
not worth it for some old bit of rubbish .canals dont contain a wealth of riches just most likely junk..they get silted up too.. if the magnet gets stuck on some old tat dont keep tugging as you will tug yourself in ..the most you might find is a bayonet or rusty gun or horse shoe or an old gas cooker
I have to say it has never attracted me either (pun intended)! ;)
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Post by Koala » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:36 pm

Some steep areas a helmet would be advisable


To be honest. If people on YouTube didn't lark about and showed some common sense there would be far less accidents. That not just metal detecting.


How anyone has to call the fire brigade because they have concreted their head in a microwave.


You have to weigh up the risks of each area. A gradual slip and shallow water is not the same as deep locks with gates, channels and so on.


Both magnet fishing and metal detecting are supposed to be fun.

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Post by targets » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:39 pm

do you really want to find this old rubbish and possibly loose your life ?

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Post by sweepstick47 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:28 pm

targets wrote: โ†‘
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:39 pm
do you really want to find this old rubbish and possibly loose your life ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... volunteers
Thanks 'Targets', It's certainly a thought provoking article! Regards ss47 ::g
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Post by Doc Phibes » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:16 pm

sweepstick47 wrote: โ†‘
Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:28 pm
targets wrote: โ†‘
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:39 pm
do you really want to find this old rubbish and possibly loose your life ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... volunteers
Thanks 'Targets', It's certainly a thought provoking article! Regards ss47 ::g
Ultimately common sense prevails?
I'm hoping to spend a few days in Scotland during the summer
Our relatives are renovating an old house on the banks of a small loch.
There's the prospect of kayaking, fishing and casually chucking a magnet into the water.
Hopefully we'll not be retrieving any thing too unpleasant..we shall see!
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Post by Saki » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:31 pm

beep-and-dig wrote: โ†‘
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Life Jackets, not expensive, and do save lives.
Lifejacket
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I have heard every excuse under the Sun for why you are not wearing a lifejacket near water..
Every "body" I pulled out of the water had NO lifejacket or was wrongly fitted(or not maintained).
And it was always, always, always a person with years of experience. Knew what they were doing etc

My only other advice is use dyneema rope. It doesnt snap back if cut.
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Post by Buriedbytime&dust » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:49 pm

SuperRed wrote: โ†‘
Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:29 pm
targets wrote: โ†‘
Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:14 pm
not worth it for some old bit of rubbish .canals dont contain a wealth of riches just most likely junk..they get silted up too.. if the magnet gets stuck on some old tat dont keep tugging as you will tug yourself in ..the most you might find is a bayonet or rusty gun or horse shoe or an old gas cooker
I have to say it has never attracted me either (pun intended)! ;)
I can't see the appeal either. We spend a lot of our detecting time trying to avoid magnetic metals, and for a good reason.

Trawling a canal with a magnet, hauling out shopping trollies and other rubbish that's been lobbed in there doesn't sound like fun to me.

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Post by targets » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:42 pm

amsterdam canal cleanout ...good finds.. but little for magnet fishers to be found..but it would have been silted up too

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Post by Fusion » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:29 pm

Back on topic:
I've had another look on the web for ideas. A couple that I thought worth repeating:

# Clean your magnet ( and rope ) after you've used it. There's still the risk of water-borne diseases etc on them if you don't.
# Be aware that as well as large items, the magnet will still attract very small items like fishing hooks, wire, and flakes of thin rusty sheetmetal. These are all capable of cutting the skin, even through gloves. Non-magnetic tools would probably be best to remove such items, rather than a heavy cloth. There are fibreglass pliers, search the web for "Fuseworks pliers", but good stainless steel tools should be only mildly attracted to the magnet, so should work.(though not always).
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Post by Polyspaston » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:32 pm

Recently watched a report on the approved method of rescuing people from rivers etc. on the local TV station.

There were two rescuers both in lifejackets. The first one was throwing a rope to the person in the water. the point is that she was standing well back from the edge of the bank and the second person was holding onto her belt. Much less chance of being pulled in as well.

It is always as well to make allowance for the fact that things can go wrong. You only need enough water for your nose and mouth to be covered and you will drown.

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Magnet fishing - be careful out there

Post by f8met » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:34 am

Police were forced to close off a lock and boats were stopped from navigating along the River Great Ouse after a Second World War grenade was discovered.

A spokesman for Cambridgeshire police said: โ€œWe were called at just after 5pm to Offord lock, where a magnet fisher had pulled what is believed to have been a Second World War hand grenade from the river.

โ€œBomb disposal blew up the grenade in a nearby field at about 8.40pm.โ€

The bomb disposal team, WO 5131, based at RAF Wittering, tweeted: โ€œMany thanks to local residents Offord for your assistance and patience, your support enabled the team to clear the area promptly.โ€

Magnet fishing involves attaching a strong neodymium magnet to a line and searching bodies of water for metallic objects, typically coins or jewellery, although some fisherman carry out the hobby for environmental purposes, removing bicycles, tyre rims and other debris from the water.
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Post by Easylife » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:51 am

My permission seems to have been used for some minor military training. Besides the occasional live bullet it seems that grenades were let off there too from the distorted Mills grenade filler cap I found. Hope they didn't leave any live ones about though, they're not always just in the rivers. The odds are probably higher of being harmed by everyday things. I bet if for some strange reason someone went magnet fishing to find a grenade they would never find one, but like many things they just turn up when least expected. :D
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Post by Frenchieboy » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:55 am

I do a fair bit of magnet fishing and have found some strange things in the Rochdale canal including an automatic pistol (In quite good condition and a 40mm Bofor Anti-Aircraft bullet as well as countless cash boxes.
There are quite a few videos on Youtube where things like guns and grenades have been pulled out of the water.
Many of my magnet fishing finds can be found on Youtube if you go to my channel which is called Frenchieboy's Magnet Fishing.

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Post by andyb » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:13 pm

Late to the party but oh well, here is my guide!

http://www.magnet-fishing.co.uk/how-to- ... ish-guide/
http://www.magnetfishingpro.com for all your magnet fishing needs


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