Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

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Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by skythepig » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:58 pm

Hi last night I got out on one of my local beaches which has had a lot of sand removed. Most of the beach is now pebbles with shale and compacted pebbles under this.
Even where there is sand it is only about 3 to 6 inches deep before you hit pebbles.
I have a decent heavy duty beach scoop shovel but this will not dig into the compacted pebble underlayer where some good finds are buried.
Last night I had to walk away from quite a few really good signals because the hole hit this pebble layer and even with fingers it is painful to try and dig any further down.
Has any one any suggestions on tools to use on this type of beach as there are good finds down there but just out of reach? :;@


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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by Ladybird66 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:31 pm

I’ve mostly managed with my spade. I bought a strait edged one and hubby shaped it to my instructions then sharpened it. Having a pointy bit at the front end lets me get between the stones and then ‘do the twist’. It’s impossible to dig by pushing but a sideways shuffle usually loosens all but the biggest. I am talking about the spade, NOT me. :D
I’ve never seen the point , of a scoop. Fine if you’ve got long stretches of deep sandy beaches or doing the edge of the water. I haven’t and don’t so customised spade does me.
S’pose you could take a hand fork and give that a try. Hard work though and more bending, Na !

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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by Dave The Slave » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:57 pm

Stainless steel border spade, when venturing into the wet sand, with stones etc.
Scoop is not something, I would ever have.
With a fork, would imagine useful for digging into the area but could see problems actually removing the material. Perhaps you could use a trowel with the fork but then that`s 2 items to carry.
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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by skythepig » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:23 pm

My scoop has a serious angled point on it so is more like a holey spade but this still does not get into the hardpack with all sorts of wiggling about, jumping up and down and doing a Basil Fawlty around a hole in the beach. x;
I was considering taking a strong metal rod that could be wobbled about in the gaps to loosen the stones but again that is more to carry and bending down doesn't do the old back much good. :;@
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Post by Ladybird66 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:30 pm

I think it’s called an excavator ::g

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Post by Ladybird66 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:40 pm

Just remembered. A few weeks ago I took my ne Nox to the beach for the 1st time. I found a Chinese coin in a gully by the harbour. Being a gully it was below the sand on the beach, so into the pebbles, rocks and general detritist that sinks there.
Same as you, I had a heck of a job with it but managed all the smaller stuff then came ‘the big one’ and the signal was under it. It’s a wonder I haven’t broken the handle on my spade before now. Not a pretty sight but I managed to move it by levering it to one side.
Now, how did that get there ? We’re back to Sailors again ::g

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Post by Easylife » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:31 pm

Strong and pointy is the way. ::g
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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by fred » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:57 pm

Burgon and Ball transplanting spade for me. A bit pricey and not the lightest but the 10 inch long narrow blade is perfect for deep sand or shingle as well as farmland. They also last a lot longer than ordinary stainless steel border spades. ::g
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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by beachboy70 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:47 am

I use a scoop mostly on sand but when you have to get into that pebble/ sand mix its like trying to dig reinforced concrete, the spade is best but still not that easy if its compacted by the sea, best of luck with that. B| Pete

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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by Rivers rat » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:36 pm

Hi i had the same experience ,and i was with a spade a wider than the burgon and ball but i managed ,i since bought a B&B and think it will have made the difference NOW .......my last outing i wa struggling with my B&B and wish i had brought a scoop ..............


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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by skythepig » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:23 pm

A friend suggested getting strong fork and cutting two prongs off it leaving as a two prong fork which should be easier to wiggle in the gaps to loosen pebbles and save finger damage.
It's amazing how compacted the pebbles get and more amazing how the coins etc get so deep into this compacted layer.
Will try the local boot fair to see if I can pick up a bargain old fork to cut/modify. :;@
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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by sponge » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:49 am

I always use a stainless steel border spade on the beach - never fails for me.

I have also found a large heavy duty screwdriver (not cross end type) very useful for prising coins out of cracks & should imagine would break through the compacted layers with ease.

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Post by Rivers rat » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:54 am

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Re: Sand Scoop, Fork, Trowel What Would You Use?

Post by skythepig » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:34 am

Thanks RR that looks like its just the job.
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