Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

Post by Phil2401 » Mon May 29, 2017 1:19 pm

I commented a couple of weeks ago on beach detecting, specifically Worthing (although there must be many other examples) - had a look at Worthing council's byelaws and there is nothing in there to prevent metal detecting, but interestingly the byelaws indicate that the foreshore below high water mark is Crown Estate. Worthing beach is not marked in purple on the Crown Estate map, so under the previous rules it would appear that the Crown Estate did not allow metal detecting there.

However my point is - the Crown Estate, as we all now know, are currently reviewing their policy on beach detecting. Although Worthing beach is not currently specifically identified, i.e. marked in purple, does this review of their policy mean that the purple areas are also under review and can therefore be disregarded? (obviously using common sense re. SSSIs and AONBs).

My interpretation is that since there is currently no policy, metal detecting is allowed on any beach owned by the Crown Estate, so all we have to do at present is identify that the particular beach is owned by the Crown Estate, check the local authority's byelaws and off we go...

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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

Post by Dhiggi » Mon May 29, 2017 1:54 pm

Most of the beaches up in the North East that are Crown Estate also seem to be covered by an SSSI; I have seen references to people saying that they do go on those beaches and I have also seen posts that suggest that SSSIs are totally out of bounds. I have tried to do a bit of research and have found no evidence of Natural England actually not allowing responsible detecting on beaches (but not dunes etc.)
Do I need specific permission from them to detect on the SSSI beaches, or would it be good practice to get permission anyway, or should I assume that if I'm being responsible about it then I'm OK?


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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

Post by Phil2401 » Mon May 29, 2017 4:22 pm

Dhiggi wrote:
Mon May 29, 2017 1:54 pm
Most of the beaches up in the North East that are Crown Estate also seem to be covered by an SSSI; I have seen references to people saying that they do go on those beaches and I have also seen posts that suggest that SSSIs are totally out of bounds. I have tried to do a bit of research and have found no evidence of Natural England actually not allowing responsible detecting on beaches (but not dunes etc.)
Do I need specific permission from them to detect on the SSSI beaches, or would it be good practice to get permission anyway, or should I assume that if I'm being responsible about it then I'm OK?


https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... sponse.pdf
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http://netfella.co.uk/Natural%20England%20Reply.pdf
If it's an SSSI or and AONB, clearly you shouldn't go there. The rules are there to protect the natural habitat / flaura & fauna etc. and must be observed.
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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

Post by Dhiggi » Mon May 29, 2017 5:30 pm

Phil2401 wrote:
Mon May 29, 2017 4:22 pm
Dhiggi wrote:
Mon May 29, 2017 1:54 pm
Most of the beaches up in the North East that are Crown Estate also seem to be covered by an SSSI; I have seen references to people saying that they do go on those beaches and I have also seen posts that suggest that SSSIs are totally out of bounds. I have tried to do a bit of research and have found no evidence of Natural England actually not allowing responsible detecting on beaches (but not dunes etc.)
Do I need specific permission from them to detect on the SSSI beaches, or would it be good practice to get permission anyway, or should I assume that if I'm being responsible about it then I'm OK?


https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... sponse.pdf
viewtopic.php?t=8813
http://netfella.co.uk/Natural%20England%20Reply.pdf
If it's an SSSI or and AONB, clearly you shouldn't go there. The rules are there to protect the natural habitat / flaura & fauna etc. and must be observed.
But the links I have posted are examples of Natural England saying that detecting is ok on SSSI beaches...

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Crown Estate Foreshore Detecting T & C

Post by Jungle » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:33 pm

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/ ... ecting.pdf

I don't do beach but wondered if this was a revised edition or has it always been a case of unclaimed valuable items are divided between crown and finder after a haggle process (4.iii) ?
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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

Post by mikee657 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:05 am

I have recently had a conversation with Natural England in regard to detecting on SSSI areas. Most of the coast line falls under crown estates. But there are areas that's are controlled by local councils or have land owners. You would have to get the usual land owners permission for these but SSSI areas on crown estates are different. Areas in SSSI are ok to detect in as long as you are low to high tide mark only and do not detect on any land attached. Areas you are not allowed to detect in are sand marshes and various habitats for birds etc. and the maps listed before this will show that. They do ask you to refill any holes and pick up a bit of plastic on your way. If you do e-mail looking for a response from them it could be long winded as most will respond with land owner permission and what you can't do and what you have to do to get permission to do anything on nesting bird sites etc. It took me ages to get a proper response from them and that was by telephone after about two weeks back and forth with e-mail. Just remember low to high tide mark only.

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Re: Crown Estate Foreshore Permit

Post by Lincoln/edd » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:37 am

Hi I'm going to make a trip to a beach / estuary along the north east coast Skegness to mablethorpe not quite sure we're yet does any one know if all this coast line is ok for detecting without any permission just want a few hrs of a quiet life without any agro Eddie

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