ID's as Early 1800s royal company of archers gilt button

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Re: Another livery button? Or military help please

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:16 pm

DiOz wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:53 pm
Lowland wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:11 pm
Would one showing up in the USA point more to a military button?
It's not a family livery button.
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Re: Another livery button? Or military help please

Post by fred » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:26 pm

'drive'? :-/ Too late mate, you've already got the bug bigtime! You're doomed man, doomed! :D :D :D

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Re: Another livery button? Or military help please

Post by DiOz » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:28 pm

Try emailing pics to the guy who has the British Military Buttons website...
http://asahelena.wixsite.com/militarybuttons

If he can't ID the button he knows people who may be able to.
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Re: Another livery button? Or military help please

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:55 pm

fred wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:26 pm
'drive'? :-/ Too late mate, you've already got the bug bigtime! You're doomed man, doomed! :D :D :D
Tell me about it.
Allways knew it would happen...
From an early age I've been howking holes in the ground,
But the research side of things
That's the kicker.
Learnt a lot on here
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Re: Another livery button? Or military help please

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:57 pm

DiOz wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:28 pm
Try emailing pics to the guy who has the British Military Buttons website...
http://asahelena.wixsite.com/militarybuttons

If he can't ID the button he knows people who may be able to.
Great minds...
I've got one or two others to do-
Just need to get on wi 'it.
Thanks again ::g
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Re: Not a family livery button military? help please

Post by Euro Detector » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:24 pm

Hi Lowland,

I had someone who knows a lot about old buttons have a look at yours, and he says it is an early button of the Royal Company of Archers in Scotland. They received their royal charter (and thus could use the crown) back in 1704. However, this unit was given the role as the Sovereign's Bodyguard in Scotland in 1822, which puts us right around the time Scaife and Willis was active at New Bond Street in London (1811). The post 1822 button designs are different, so this particular button must be made sometime between 1811-1822.

Below is a detail from a painting by Alexander Carse (1770-1843) showing members of the company on parade at the landing of King George IV at Leith in 1822, to give an idea on which type of uniforms these buttons were worn. ::g
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Re: Not a family livery button military? help please

Post by Lowland » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:58 pm

Euro Detector wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:24 pm
Hi Lowland,

I had someone who knows a lot about old buttons have a look at yours, and he says it is an early button of the Royal Company of Archers in Scotland. They received their royal charter (and thus could use the crown) back in 1704. However, this unit was given the role as the Sovereign's Bodyguard in Scotland in 1822, which puts us right around the time Scaife and Willis was active at New Bond Street in London (1811). The post 1822 button designs are different, so this particular button must be made sometime between 1811-1822.

Below is a detail from a painting by Alexander Carse (1770-1843) showing members of the company on parade at the landing of King George IV at Leith in 1822, to give an idea on which type of uniforms these buttons were worn. ::g
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Re: ID's as Early 1800s royal company of archers gilt button

Post by fred » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:39 pm

Great to get a positve confirmation. ::g

Talk about wheels within wheels. Have a look at the link in the second response and be amazed! :D :D :D

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Re: ID's as Early 1800s royal company of archers gilt button

Post by Lowland » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:45 pm

fred wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:39 pm
Great to get a positve confirmation. ::g

Talk about wheels within wheels. Have a look at the link in the second response and be amazed! :D :D :D
You were on it from the beginning lad.
What an excellent forum this is
Thanks to everybody who had a look
::g
There are very strong ties to the RCOA in the Scottish Borders
Which all adds to the button.

Also A good example of a makers backstamp helping to place a button

Incidentally got a decent sized seated Britannia pressed copper badge(or part of)
In the same corner
It looks a Georgian/early Victorian thing maybe off a military item.
I will get it fired on here,let you have a butchers.
Cheers again
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