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16 lead finds.

Post by Easylife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:27 pm

I had a day with some others on a cultivated field which appears to have had an interesting past. Several Roman and hammered coins came up and quite a bit of lead. Apart from the random blobs here's the rest of mine.
Top row - A token with a hole in it, a well worn token, a mushroom, A "H" token.
Middle row – A small weight of exactly 1/5 of an ounce with a double coil wire suspension loop, A domed weight of exactly 2 ounces with signs of three iron pins on the sides and base, but not on top. There are 2 holes in the angled end faces of this ?, Large item is very much like a pump clack but without the usual mushroom.
Last row – 6 x lead shot - 2nd one in has eighteen sort of rifling marks around it, does that seem a lot?, Next is not a bullet but cast a similar shape, and then a small bullet.

The 2oz weight appears to have a possible heart shape stamp on the base, just to the right of the iron pin, it looks pretty old.
Any ideas about any of these? :)
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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by oldartefact » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:25 pm

Thats an interesting collection EL ... did any bronze/copper emerge?
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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by Easylife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:39 pm

oldartefact wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:25 pm
Thats an interesting collection EL ... did any bronze/copper emerge?
Not much really, a few Vickies, a 17th century token, and about five bronze Roman. The field seemed quite undetected due to the many targets though the farmer said he had had nighthawks on there whilst in crop leaving unfilled holes, between us we covered it pretty well so they may lose interest now. It was a surprisingly good field and a dry and enjoyable day.
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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by oldartefact » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:02 pm

Easylife wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:39 pm
oldartefact wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:25 pm
Thats an interesting collection EL ... did any bronze/copper emerge?
Not much really, a few Vickies, a 17th century token, and about five bronze Roman. The field seemed quite undetected due to the many targets though the farmer said he had had nighthawks on there whilst in crop leaving unfilled holes, between us we covered it pretty well so they may lose interest now. It was a surprisingly good field and a dry and enjoyable day.
My gut feeling is that night hawksd are opportunists ... they mey well be back after the next ploughing???
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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by fred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:06 pm

The 'mushroom' in the top row looks like a pot mend. ::g

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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by Easylife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:46 pm

fred wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:06 pm
The 'mushroom' in the top row looks like a pot mend. ::g
Thanks, from the pic it might, but it is actually just like the mushroom off a pump clack coincidentally. ::g
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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by fred » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:36 am

Easylife wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:46 pm
fred wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:06 pm
The 'mushroom' in the top row looks like a pot mend. ::g
Thanks, from the pic it might, but it is actually just like the mushroom off a pump clack coincidentally. ::g
It looks a little small for that to me but I haven't got it in my hands. ::g

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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by Wigeon » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:45 am

The piece with the multiple witness marks that look like rifling is intriguing. It does look like a shot from a rifled musket, but I cannot find anything with such a large number of grooves. Maybe not a musket shot after all ?

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Re: 16 lead finds.

Post by Easylife » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:48 am

Wigeon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:45 am
The piece with the multiple witness marks that look like rifling is intriguing. It does look like a shot from a rifled musket, but I cannot find anything with such a large number of grooves. Maybe not a musket shot after all ?
I was thinking that they are not rifling marks but have no ideas, another mystery.
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