Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

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Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by stubble hunter » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:49 pm

Spent a gruelling 3 hours on a disc'd up field and does my back know it. However this field has had amazing finds from in the past particularly Roman so well pleased to find one an hour in. The other interesting finds are, as usual, partials :(

Used the deus 9" standard coil , GMP (I started off with hot prog but ears started to ache so switched) and v4.1
All the finds ...

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Top row: Denarius (appears debased silver), broken hammy (was folded over, attempted to unfold the rest is history rl; ), jeton ?
2nd row: ferule ?, pewter button
Bottome row: usual couple of Georgians, lead disc

And zooming in...

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The above appears to be a very debased silver denarius ! Reverse appears to show someone facing left and'seated'. Any help on ID would be greatly appreciated. I cleaned this out if the field (water and a soft brush) but I daren't do any more to it here. Tried renaissance wax but little improvement other than protecting it I guess. Not sure if this is to be recommended mind on this type of coin ?

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This appears to be a battered Charles I half groat ?
The plough did its job here. I just finished it off !

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This appears to be part of a jeton ? Again again help on an ID would be great.
The second pic appears to show a figure facing left, knees up and feet crossed but... its probably my vivid imagination/optical illusion.
Turning this pic 180 degrees produces this

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...and a shield magically appears ! Or does it. Thoughts anyone as I am confused.youknowwho !

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So the above is maybe part of a ferule ?

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I don't normally post up buttons but I like the design on the above one. Not sure what it represents though :-/

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And the above is a disc shaped piece of lead. I often find these but I have no idea what their purpose was. I have found some flattened musket balls in the past but not as flat as this. Its shaped for a purpose but what ? Anyone

Well that's my mixed bag for today. No detecting tomorrow as it looks set to be a wash out. Great.. my back can recover !

Hope some of you got lucky if out ::g
Cheers !
John
p.s. Should be 13 pics viewable. If not then do let me know as I've 'uggered up somehow !
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by Allectus » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:51 pm

Hadrian. ::g

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by Allectus » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:53 pm

It's not debased, John. There's a cracking coin under that scale that needs zapping with a few rounds of electrolysis. ::g


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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by Allectus » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:54 pm

Charles I halfgroat & a French Jeton fragment. ::g

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by Mancave-man » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:56 pm

It may not be debased at all. Try cleaning it using electrolysis. You may be greatly surprised at how well it will clean up. I had some that went from rubbish to museum quality just by giving them a few zaps with the old elastictricity. Magic.
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by stubble hunter » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:57 pm

Fantastic ID's A ! =D> ::g
And many thanks for the advice re denarius ::g
I can certainly see a small bit of silver appearing on the reverse so I will look forward to zapping it shortly and will show the results here :)
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by stubble hunter » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:59 pm

Mancave-man wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:56 pm
It may not be debased at all. Try cleaning it using electrolysis. You may be greatly surprised at how well it will clean up. I had some that went from rubbish to museum quality just by giving them a few zaps with the old elastictricity. Magic.
(Oops, beaten to it by Allectus)!
And thanks for your advice too ! With both of you advising the same I will go ahead and do the short sharp treatment ::g
Cheeers !
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by Allectus » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:06 pm

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by Mancave-man » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:46 pm

stubble hunter wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:59 pm
Mancave-man wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:56 pm
It may not be debased at all. Try cleaning it using electrolysis. You may be greatly surprised at how well it will clean up. I had some that went from rubbish to museum quality just by giving them a few zaps with the old elastictricity. Magic.
(Oops, beaten to it by Allectus)!
And thanks for your advice too ! With both of you advising the same I will go ahead and do the short sharp treatment ::g
Cheeers !
John
Your very welcome. I did mine using warm water in a jam jar with a teaspoon of salt mixed into it. Then immerse the coin in the water for 3 or 4 six minute periods and brush off the crud with an old toothbrush and your thumb nail. Worked a treat. Good luck.

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by knotalot » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:59 pm

A very nice denarius well done ::g that will be a stunner when cleaned ::g

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018

Post by stubble hunter » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:04 pm

What a transformation ! Can't thank you guys enough ! =D> =D> =D> =D>

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2,000 years of crud removed with a few sharp zapps ! I daren't zap anymore ! More than happy with the result.
Cheers A. and Mancave-man 1 ::g
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by Allectus » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:10 pm

That's got it! Cracking result there John, well done. ::g ::g


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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by Oxgirl36 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:28 pm

Wow :-O if I ever find one of these i’m coming to you lot for cleaning advice ::g
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by oldartefact » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:50 pm

That is superb beyond superb ...!!! OooO OooO OooO OooO
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by SuperRed » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:58 pm

What a scorcher!! You must be over the moon! =))
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by PeakDetectorist » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:58 pm

Fantastic result! Great looking coin.
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by fred » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:05 pm

Great job on the denarius. ::g

The lead thing would probably be best described as a personal weight. It probably meant something very specific to somebody. Always worth giving a weight in descriptions if possible because sometimes then it is quite obvious what they are. :D

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by Swany » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:07 pm

Very nice restoration work mate. What piece of kit did you use. ::g

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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by stubble hunter » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:13 pm

Swany wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:07 pm
Very nice restoration work mate. What piece of kit did you use. ::g
Just a cheapo electrolysis kit off flea bay o.k.
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by sweepstick47 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:24 pm

A great result 'stubble hunter' ::g I expect there'll be more of that shocking treatment in the not too distant future. Nice job ::g Regards ss47
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Re: Denarius for ID - 26th April 2018 * RESTORED"

Post by Mancave-man » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:10 pm

Its like magic isn't it? What a cracker. Well done.

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