Edward I penny - class 3, continental imitation "LondEn" on reverse

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Edward I penny - class 3, continental imitation "LondEn" on reverse

Post by dep1699 » Tue May 15, 2018 5:06 pm

Hi I found this penny today (Pasture, Deus hot 12kz, 15 cm down). Diameter is 2 cm (badly mesured with a ruler). I think it's a Edward penny (London Mint). However I can't figure out the class. Can Anyone help (read Allectus please tell me the class :-) ).

P.S. I was almost considering to give up the permission because it's quiet and I searched it to death, lesson learned never give up a permission and keep search it again and again and again....n*again.
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by Allectus » Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm

Strange. I'm going for a contemporary continental imitation. ::g

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by dep1699 » Tue May 15, 2018 5:35 pm

Allectus wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm
Strange. I'm going for a contemporary continental imitation. ::g

A ;)
Come on be serious :-) I dug it in a place that has no reason to have a false coin on it.
Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by broadsmaster » Tue May 15, 2018 5:53 pm

dep1699 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:35 pm
Allectus wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm
Strange. I'm going for a contemporary continental imitation. ::g

A ;)
Come on be serious :-) I dug it in a place that has no reason to have a false coin on it.
Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by Spearhead » Tue May 15, 2018 6:05 pm

dep1699 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:35 pm
Allectus wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm
Strange. I'm going for a contemporary continental imitation. ::g

A ;)
Come on be serious :-) I dug it in a place that has no reason to have a false coin on it.
Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)
I think that you are miss-understanding the word "contemporary", in this case contemporary means 13th century.

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by Mancave-man » Tue May 15, 2018 6:10 pm

dep1699 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:35 pm
Allectus wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm
Strange. I'm going for a contemporary continental imitation. ::g

A ;)
Come on be serious :-) I dug it in a place that has no reason to have a false coin on it.
Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)
Continental contemporary imitation does't mean it's a fake. It means the Continentals copied English coins because they were so popular at that time. Yours is still of that period, possibly 1300's so still a good find!

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by Oxgirl36 » Tue May 15, 2018 6:28 pm

Oh love a nice contemporary copy. Most FLOs like recording them too ::g

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by oldartefact » Tue May 15, 2018 6:36 pm

I love the coin, regardless of origin..but what a great call again by Mr. A. Great respect for another great ID... and the Goggle eyes .. dont look into my eyes, dont look around my eyes ... just accept that I have Goggle eyes!!!
Looks like a selfie of Jacques Cousteau kissing a Turtle!!! :) :) :) A fantastic coin ... no other way of putting it! I love the coin.

edit ... would just like to say thank-you for posting... its finds like these that make me want to continue the incredible quest they call detecting.
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by cantona1 » Tue May 15, 2018 6:48 pm

Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by knotalot » Tue May 15, 2018 6:54 pm

love the spelling of the mint LON DEN of iniquity :-/

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by Spearhead » Tue May 15, 2018 7:15 pm

His hair curls at the bottom look like fingers holding the top of the wall that he is peering over. This coin is far more fun than a bog standard Eddy penny.

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by dep1699 » Tue May 15, 2018 7:49 pm

Mancave-man wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:10 pm
dep1699 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:35 pm
Allectus wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm
Strange. I'm going for a contemporary continental imitation. ::g

A ;)
Come on be serious :-) I dug it in a place that has no reason to have a false coin on it.
Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)
Continental contemporary imitation does't mean it's a fake. It means the Continentals copied English coins because they were so popular at that time. Yours is still of that period, possibly 1300's so still a good find!
Ok please forgive my huge ignorance on the topic.
I thought you meant contemporary (our time)

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by dep1699 » Tue May 15, 2018 7:50 pm

cantona1 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:48 pm
Maybe it's so rare that you don't know it :-) :-)
Forgive him "A" he obviously doesn't know that you are a Jedi coin master rl;
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I was obviously just joking, I am well aware of Allectus knowledge and I truly apologize if the joke was inappropriate.
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by knotalot » Wed May 16, 2018 12:26 am

Nice coin in good order ::g I would be pleased to find one in as good order as that for my display cabinet, Different makes it for me =P~ Well found ::g

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by dep1699 » Wed May 16, 2018 7:08 am

Even if it's a contemporary copy, is a contemporary copy of what? Edward I penny? It's larger than the Edward I penny that I have, this is 2 cm in diameter.
I am puzzled on why someone did a copy using more silver than the real one. Maybe is debased silver?

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by Stillburning » Wed May 16, 2018 7:34 am

In the initial post you said "2cm badly measured with a ruler" which would be about right for a full flan penny, perhaps you could take another photograph with an accurate scale if it is much larger?

Yes the silver would have been debased which is why the copies were made, have a look here for more information https://www.sterlingimitations.com/information.html ::g
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by dep1699 » Wed May 16, 2018 7:39 am

Stillburning wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:34 am
In the initial post you said "2cm badly measured with a ruler" which would be about right for a full flan penny, perhaps you could take another photograph with an accurate scale if it is much larger?

Yes the silver would have been debased which is why the copies were made, have a look here for more information https://www.sterlingimitations.com/information.html ::g
I re-sending measure it it's 2 cm exactly. Thank you for the answer. I came across this website yesterday, a really nice one to search for coins imitations.

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Re: Edward I, continental imitation "LondEn" on reverse

Post by dep1699 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:57 pm

Just updated the post title according to the experts judgment.

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Re: Edward I, continental imitation "LondEn" on reverse

Post by dep1699 » Thu May 17, 2018 10:18 pm

dep1699 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:57 pm
Just updated the post title according to the experts judgment.
Re-updated after Knotalot's suggestion (thank you).

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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by oldartefact » Fri May 18, 2018 2:19 pm

dep1699 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:08 am
Even if it's a contemporary copy, is a contemporary copy of what? Edward I penny? It's larger than the Edward I penny that I have, this is 2 cm in diameter.
I am puzzled on why someone did a copy using more silver than the real one. Maybe is debased silver?
If the copy was made on the continent I would assume it was done so that they could pay for services in sterling, so to speak. A precursor to the Euro?
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Re: Edward I, but which class?

Post by dep1699 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:22 pm

oldartefact wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 2:19 pm
dep1699 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:08 am
Even if it's a contemporary copy, is a contemporary copy of what? Edward I penny? It's larger than the Edward I penny that I have, this is 2 cm in diameter.
I am puzzled on why someone did a copy using more silver than the real one. Maybe is debased silver?
If the copy was made on the continent I would assume it was done so that they could pay for services in sterling, so to speak. A precursor to the Euro?
That's what will happen after Brexit :-) :-) :-)

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Re: Edward I penny - class 3, continental imitation "LondEn" on reverse

Post by Easylife » Fri May 18, 2018 9:24 pm

An unusual but superb find. That portrait - surely not a true likeness :)) , It's just great.
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