fob seal

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Re: fob seal

Post by peteh » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:25 pm

An amazing find, well done

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Re: fob seal

Post by Spearhead » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:59 pm

KGB wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:40 pm
got this off the FLO today.

Hi Kevin,

I ran the seal past a colleague of mine who is good with these things. He replied:

I make it S’ fris [with contraction mark over the i for the missing -atr- ] petri. clu/uere

S[eal] of Brother Peter Culver

The last name – if it is a name [ it might always be his occupation/office within some monastic establishment] I’m pretty sure is to be read

Cluuere which makes no sense to me as it stands! 2 possibilities suggest themselves:

1. If we allow the engraver got a bit carried away, then the surname Cluer is a possibility.

2. Bearing in mind that the 2nd -u- might stand for ‘v’ – then it would be cluvere

In its turn, cluver might easily be a metathesised form of the surname Culver

contemporary attestations:

Cluer [in origin French, occupational, < clou-eur, ‘nailer, nail-maker’]
DBS – s.n. Clower – gives William le Cloer Somerset 1201; Stephen le cloer London 1292;

Culver [OE, ME = ‘dove’]
Thomas Colvere 1221 Worcs [OES]
John Culuare 1327 Glos [MED]

I think Culver is far more likely than Cluer
Great analysis on a tricky seal. Thank you KGB for pursuing it.

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Re: fob seal

Post by KGB » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:02 pm

some better pics that are also reversed.




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Re: fob seal

Post by SuperRed » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:23 pm

That really is amazing!! Really well done, and yes... I am green with envy, but full of admiration!! ::g

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