Solved - Fleet Family Livery Button ID

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Solved - Fleet Family Livery Button ID

Post by R4RJB » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:46 pm

I found this button on a club search on farmland near Rochester last week.
It depicts what I believe to be a demi-griffin with a serpent-like tail and three-pronged claws. The head also looks like it could be a male lion with heavy mane. It is unusual as the tail also has three prongs, rather than the typical barbed tail. I believe the round object between the claws would have shown the family crest. I'm also struggling to make out what the backmark says - is it a "Hammond"?
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Richard

The pictures are lit from the side to maximise the sparse detail.
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Re: Livery Button ID Help Please

Post by DiOz » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:13 pm

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It's a FLEETE family livery button... https://www.myfamilysilver.com/pages/cr ... ?id=147120
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Re: Livery Button ID Help Please

Post by R4RJB » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:19 pm

WOW! That was quick - thanks Dave ::g
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Re: Livery Button ID Help Please

Post by DiOz » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:37 pm

A coat-of-arms that included that crest was granted to Sir John Fleete of London in 1691.
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Re: Solved - Fleete Family Livery Button ID

Post by DiOz » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:49 pm

"Hammond" backmarks are on this webpage... http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/buttonsgtom.html#anchorh
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Re: Solved - Fleete Family Livery Button ID

Post by R4RJB » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:24 pm

Thanks again Dave ::g
I now think it an R.E. Hayward button though. I can make out the "HAYW" in the photo.
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Re: Solved - Fleet Family Livery Button ID

Post by R4RJB » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:57 am

Having carried out some further research, Sir John Fleet’s career is well documented and below is a link to his biography:
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.o ... -1648-1712
He is buried in St Mary's Churchyard, Battersea and a splendid monument is mounted on the wall inside the church. It dwarfs the surrounding monuments. At the top, is a shield of arms and the summit to the knight’s helm, which is described as being a “water-lion”. It is satisfying to see that it is the same design as depicted on the button.
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