Crucifix part. Any ideas of date ?
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Crucifix part. Any ideas of date ?
Any ideas of the date of this metal crucifix part? Found on an old pilgrims' track.
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It may be useful if you're able to state what metal is used in it's construction
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Interesting find, well done Hopefully ancient, pity its fragmented, the rest may be close by though, Liam
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Possibly pewter?sweepstick47 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:20 pm It may be useful if you're able to state what metal is used in it's construction
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Thanks Liam, unfortunately there was nothing else nearby.liamnolan wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:22 pm Interesting find, well done Hopefully ancient, pity its fragmented, the rest may be close by though, Liam
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I remember reading an archi report that discussed the dispersal of items in the soil. One interesting finding was that even after 1000 years or so of field cultivation and the resultant soil movements, an item rarely moved more than 10 yards away from the spot where dropped.
Exceptions would be getting stuck to tractor parts, building and soil removal etc. You see it in hoards, the dispersal area quite limited, Liam
Exceptions would be getting stuck to tractor parts, building and soil removal etc. You see it in hoards, the dispersal area quite limited, Liam
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Erics query may lean towards whether the item is Viking "bling" taken from a church during one of their raids. They would chop up the silver items into hack silver and later trade or melt them down for bullion.
Easily mistaken for silver and possibly discarded later when found not to be valuable. Just an idea and makes the find more interesting, Liam
Easily mistaken for silver and possibly discarded later when found not to be valuable. Just an idea and makes the find more interesting, Liam
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That's interesting and makes a lot of sense. The track went across a field which has been ploughed for many years, this could be the only remnant left in the immediate vicinity after tractor collisions etc.liamnolan wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:13 am I remember reading an archi report that discussed the dispersal of items in the soil. One interesting finding was that even after 1000 years or so of field cultivation and the resultant soil movements, an item rarely moved more than 10 yards away from the spot where dropped.
Exceptions would be getting stuck to tractor parts, building and soil removal etc. You see it in hoards, the dispersal area quite limited, Liam
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It is an interesting hypothesis that of Viking Age looting, speaking of this object, but are we sure that it is more than a thousand years old?liamnolan wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:24 am Erics query may lean towards whether the item is Viking "bling" taken from a church during one of their raids. They would chop up the silver items into hack silver and later trade or melt them down for bullion.
Easily mistaken for silver and possibly discarded later when found not to be valuable. Just an idea and makes the find more interesting, Liam
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I think we are still in the maybe/perhaps/possibly stage re the item. Good to discuss, could be any age and even grave goods, coffin ornamentation. Liam
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Probably Victorian ... but nice to find all the same XXX
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The fragment you have looks fairly identical to a metal one I have here and about the same size, not quite the same but very similar even to the pattern on the back, that one is a metal alloy and about late Victorian to mid twentieth centaury.
Size wise it's a fairly good match, can't remember if it came from my Mother, or my step-father or my Grand father, I know I didn't buy it so (prefer wood mounted) must be one of them I think, got a feeling it might have been my Mother, though I think it might have been my step-fathers before he died.
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PS Having seen more than a few in my lifetime, I doubt if it's any older than Victorian.
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Size wise it's a fairly good match, can't remember if it came from my Mother, or my step-father or my Grand father, I know I didn't buy it so (prefer wood mounted) must be one of them I think, got a feeling it might have been my Mother, though I think it might have been my step-fathers before he died.
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PS Having seen more than a few in my lifetime, I doubt if it's any older than Victorian.
(Catholic household)
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