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What was this?

Post by Easylife » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:00 pm

Found on pasture. The previous plowing chopped it in half. Made of lead and It appears to be missing it's hinged lid. It has moulded protrusions on the hinge side and the neck is narrower. Not too old, It has a registered patent No. 387733, which I guess is UK maybe about 1900 ish. Difficult to look patent up, that would tell all. But what was it a model of and it's use? A churn shaped vesta case?

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Re: What was this?

Post by the barnacle » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:31 pm

is that a bird on the RH side of the top part?

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Re: What was this?

Post by fred » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:39 pm

I think that it might be a tad small for a Vesta case. I am wondering whether it might be a needle box instead. These sometimes held a spool or two of thread and a thimble as well as pins and needles. :-/

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Re: What was this?

Post by Easylife » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:07 pm

Thanks Fred, Maybe needles, but no room for a thread or thimble. The top opening is very much narrower than it's base being just 5mm wide by 20mm long. I do not know where to find the patent record.

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Re: What was this?

Post by Dave The Slave » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:47 am

Have had a look for the design No 387733.
Design No is registered to;
John Henry Gartside & Co Ltd,
54 Fountain Street,
Manchester,
Lancs.

Subject; Prints
Class 10; Printed Fabrics
Register BT44/27
Information from National Archives Kew.

Now this refers to fabric and you have a metal item :-/ .
Has a mistake been made in another item being given the design No or did Gartside just use this on something else they had ?
Fred may be on the right lines. Perhaps the needlebox was covered in that particular fabric on the design No.
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Re: What was this?

Post by jeap » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:56 am

Part of a miniature tea / coffee set?

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Re: What was this?

Post by Easylife » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:24 pm

jeap wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:56 am
Part of a miniature tea / coffee set?
It looks a bit coffee pot like, but no handle.

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Re: What was this?

Post by Easylife » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:28 pm

the barnacle wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:31 pm
is that a bird on the RH side of the top part?
To me it looks more like an animal's head, a dog?

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Re: What was this?

Post by Easylife » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:31 pm

Dave The Slave wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:47 am
Have had a look for the design No 387733.
Design No is registered to;
John Henry Gartside & Co Ltd,
54 Fountain Street,
Manchester,
Lancs.

Subject; Prints
Class 10; Printed Fabrics
Register BT44/27
Information from National Archives Kew.

Now this refers to fabric and you have a metal item :-/ .
Has a mistake been made in another item being given the design No or did Gartside just use this on something else they had ?
Fred may be on the right lines. Perhaps the needle box was covered in that particular fabric on the design No.
Cheers ::g
Dave.
I did see that but also thought it was for something else. A logical connection though. ::g

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