Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

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Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:29 pm

Hi all
This little pendant object was found in the same field as the probably Tudor period lead button I posted up a few days ago.
I've only just found it in the car,wrapped up.
The stubble field is on the outskirts of a historic village and has yielded finds at least as far back as the 13th century.

For all it's tiny it rang a sweet sounding little pip on the gmaxxp
Buried at about 2 inches.

It's definitely a relatively heavy solid cast item and has quite fine detail for such a wee thing.
Two series of grooved lines and now just visible cross hatching higher up towards the remains of the suspension loop.
Has originally been gilded and been very flashy-now only a whisper remains.

I have looked around and am struggling to find a comparison
Is it part of an earring or harness decor or something else?

Any thoughts or opinions greatly appreciated
Thanks for having a look
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:45 am

Morning
Any body seen one of these?
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Oxgirl36 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:48 am

Does look like a drop earring :-/ Interested to see if there are any alternative IDs. But also looks similar to this medieval bell pendant (even though your isn't a bell obviously!)
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/249708
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:59 am

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:48 am
Does look like a drop earring :-/ Interested to see if there are any alternative IDs. But also looks similar to this medieval bell pendant (even though your isn't a bell obviously!)
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/249708
It does look like that without the bell.
And could easily be similar age,it's certainly been in the ground a good while and doesn't look like Vicky tat.
Thank you very much.
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by fred » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:07 am

Is it the same front and back? :-/

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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:10 am

fred wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:07 am
Is it the same front and back? :-/
Hi Fred
Yes the same on both sides.
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by liamnolan » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:14 am

An interesting find, but two or more pics are always needed, plus use a modern coin for size comparison and maybe not an old sixpence that many forum members will not remember! =))
Does look like a discarded broken earring or perhaps a broken pull toggle from a zip? Cheers, Liam OooO
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:24 am

Apologies,
Here's a shot of the other side and
'Side' on
with a five pence!
Btw Don't think it's a gilded zipper!
Last photo shows up the cross hatching.
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by fred » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:49 am

I'd probably go for the jewelry item too but perhaps a drop from a necklace or similar and say 19thC or even later.

The trouble with dating stuff like this online is that although gilding is actually relatively easy to put into broad date ranges because of the different methods used it is difficult to explain those differences and it all looks similar in photos. As a start perhaps compare it to your buckle?

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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:04 pm

Good idea,
The field it's off has finds right up to red bull tins.
The gilding that remains brightest is on the inside of the suspension loop
And is as bright as you can find.
Similar to the backs of Georgian buttons with triple orange finest etc impressed on the back.
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:53 pm

fred wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:49 am
I'd probably go for the jewelry item too but perhaps a drop from a necklace or similar and say 19thC or even later.

The trouble with dating stuff like this online is that although gilding is actually relatively easy to put into broad date ranges because of the different methods used it is difficult to explain those differences and it all looks similar in photos. As a start perhaps compare it to your buckle?
Hi lad,the spur and scallop harness pendant are from the same field as this wee droplet pendant..
Starting to think this might be of similar age?
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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by fred » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:16 pm

Lowland wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:53 pm
fred wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:49 am
I'd probably go for the jewelry item too but perhaps a drop from a necklace or similar and say 19thC or even later.

The trouble with dating stuff like this online is that although gilding is actually relatively easy to put into broad date ranges because of the different methods used it is difficult to explain those differences and it all looks similar in photos. As a start perhaps compare it to your buckle?
Hi lad,the spur and scallop harness pendant are from the same field as this wee droplet pendant..
Starting to think this might be of similar age?
Cheers
I have never seen anything remotely like it that I would put down as Medieval. For a start have a look at the construction of the suspension loop. ::g

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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by stanslad » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:14 pm

Yep, Medieval harness pendant it is,
Some are solid & some are hollow with a tiny ball inside like a bell, not all harness pendants have armorial badges on, some are just for decoration,
you can see where the swinging action has worn through the loop causing it to drop off, then found over 500 years later by you.
Lovely find, well done
Clint ::g

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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by fred » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:24 pm

stanslad wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:14 pm
Yep, Medieval harness pendant it is,
Some are solid & some are hollow with a tiny ball inside like a bell, not all harness pendants have armorial badges on, some are just for decoration,
you can see where the swinging action has worn through the loop causing it to drop off, then found over 500 years later by you.
Lovely find, well done
Clint ::g
Happy to surrender if I'm wrong but reference or example if possible please? ::g

And I still think the loop is far too round and even for Medieval and it is likely to be much more modern! :D

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Re: Tiny gilt copper alloy droplet pendant earring?

Post by Lowland » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:24 pm

Could be a long night!
The level of corrosion on the loop is considerable,it's lost a lot of meat.
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