A guide to asking for an identification of finds

Please post any finds here that you wish help with identification.
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A guide to asking for an identification of finds

Post by thefiggis » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:27 am

This is one of our most active sections and a valuable research resource if the following rules and guidelines are met, and by adhering to them you will maximise the possibility of an accurate identification from the exceptional pool of knowledge that we have here. Remember, other members give their help freely, generously and in their own spare time so it's only a courtesy to them to put in some time and effort yourself. Not only that, many like to hear the story behind the find so adding detail makes the thread more enjoyable to read and you'll get more response.

And please thank people who help! You can do this by posting your thanks or hitting the 'thanks' button, preferably both.

Don't forget, we have a lot of good aids to identification in the Research Section and you might get the satisfaction of making an ID for yourself from the information there, but if not then please follow the guidelines below.

NB: The following applies to ALL requests, including those from your friends. If the image(s) they send you are poor or lacking a scale or fall short in any way then please do not submit them for ID. Ask them to send acceptable images or, better, join the forum themselves. Fuller explanation here.


Information required in your initial request

The HAMMY code
Have at least two good sized clear, focused photos. Both sides of a coin or medal are needed.
Add any info about your detecting day, type of land, depth found etc.
Measure items by placing them next to a scale or ruler, or a 20p coin.
Machine used and settings. Always of interest, especially to those with the same machine.
You will always get a better ID if you supply more information which may not be obvious from the photo, such as the metal you think it's made from, any breakages etc. Tell us as much as you can.

Additionally
In some instances such as tokens and livery buttons, location can be a great help in identification. Just the general area will suffice.

Taking photos
The most common problems with images are size and focus. There is an excellent, in-depth article on photographing finds here.
    Focus issues are mainly caused by lack of lighting and/or being too close to the object, both of which can affect depth of field (the distance from the lens within which things are in focus). Increased lighting and/or distance from the lens usually help solve focus issues, particularly with objects with a degree of depth to them.
      To help ensure good focus on closeup shots on coins, take them from directly above.
        Keep the background plain - a busy background detracts from your object.
          Don't position the item in the general vicinity of the rule or scale but line up the left hand edge of the object with '0' on the rule. You can download a good scale here.
            If no scale or rule are to hand, an easily recognisable coin such as a 20p placed next to the object will assist in getting a good idea of its size.

            Resizing pictures
            Maximum size permitted is 600 pixels (width) x 850 pixels (height) and the actual file size of the image cannot exceed 300kb. Before you submit your request, please press the 'preview' button to (a) check that the images are not too small after resizing and (b) see that they have uploaded successfully.

            Before resizing, crop your image first. Eliminate all unnecessary background (except the scale!) and then resize. This will result in a larger image of the object and enhance the chances of an ID.

            There are various free resizing apps available on the web, such as picresize or you can use the Paint programme in Microsoft Windows (tutorial here).

            Uploading pictures

            NOTE: There is a maximum of four images PER DAY (not per topic) allowed if uploaded to this site. The reason for this is that images eat enormously into the resources provided by the owner at his own expense and this saves on running costs. (For this reason, if ever quoting a post with images in it, please remove the images and respond with text only.)

            Complete instructions on how to upload to our server here.

            Alternatively, there is no limit to the number of images you can link to from an image hosting site as they are not stored on our hard drives. If you do link to one, please attach the files as viewable images and not as text, which can prove tedious to view and thereby reduce the number of people looking at your find.

            There are numerous hosting sites available such as ImageShack flickr and imgur and they will have a guide on how to upload and link.

            Once you have had an ID
            Please remember to thank all who helped and then change the title of your topic. Edit the title from, say, "ID on hammered coin, please,” to something like “SOLVED – Henry III penny”. Be as specific as you can, i.e. don't just amend the title to “SOLVED - Jetton” - say which type of jetton.

            (If you have a group of objects, this will make changing the topic title somewhat problematic, so before you post, perhaps split what might be important objects from the group and put them up a separate topic.)

            This site has a growing database of successfully identified items and if you don't change the title your find won't show up in future searches, which would be a waste. So please remember to do so and help contribute to this valuable resource.

            Finally, and very importantly....

            Report your find to your Finds Liaison Officer (FLO) if it qualifies. There is a very informative thread on why this must be done here

            Adhere to these guidelines and, by making things clearer for those with the goodwill to help, you will maximise your chances of an accurate ID.

            PLEASE NOTE: while we have no wish to wield the mod hammer unnecessarily, requests that fall far short of the above may be bounced back to you together with an explanation as to why and suggestions for improvement.

            Good luck!


            Essential equipment:
            Some sort of electrical gubbins(I'm told it's a Deus). In various colours
            Jenkins
            Gin.

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            Re: A guide to asking for an identification of finds

            Post by Oxgirl36 » Sat May 05, 2018 10:56 am

            I’m bumping this as a gentle reminder of the requirements for asking for an ID.

            Please remember to change the title of your topic once you have an ID so others can find it if they use the search function in google or on our forum.

            Thanks :D

            P.S. if we message you asking you to add more info to your ID request then not opening the message doesn’t make it go away - just saying =))
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            Re: A guide to asking for an identification of finds

            Post by Blackadder43 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:17 pm

            Please guys and gals asking for ID's please read this thread and add even the most basic and minimum of information required by this free resource at the MDF
            Us mods are tired tonight
            I'll even share my Jelly Beans if you make this happen
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            Re: A guide to asking for an identification of finds

            Post by thefiggis » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:16 am

            He won't.
            Essential equipment:
            Some sort of electrical gubbins(I'm told it's a Deus). In various colours
            Jenkins
            Gin.

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            Re: A guide to asking for an identification of finds

            Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:40 pm

            Another little bump as a gentle reminder of the requirements for an ID on this forum ::g

            P.S. as stated above don’t forget to add info on the area (county will do) if its a seal or token or heraldic item or something where it is likely that the locality will help with an ID.
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