Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year! (Now with Video)

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Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year! (Now with Video)

Post by Fisher1266X » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:00 pm

We paid a visit to a Roman site that we'd not been to for a while and amongst the usual Roman items was this beautiful fragment of a Roman glass bangle.

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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year!

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:09 pm

Now that is very cool l;.
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Post by detecttheearth » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:15 pm

Stunning. Very jealous :-) Well found.
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Post by Ladybird66 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:20 pm

That is such a beautiful find. They certainly knew a thing or two about glass making. Well spotted ::g

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Post by busterhamer » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:27 am

Wish I had found it complete.... :D ::g
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Post by Stillburning » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:28 am

Very nice ::g
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Post by HolzHammer » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:46 am

Beautiful- how big is it?

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Post by roamingrob » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:31 am

Wow that's very nice ::g
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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year!

Post by Dave The Slave » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:33 am

Well spotted , Paul !
As you know have always been interested in your Pottery finds, which are obviously eyes only.
To me this is the Best find you have posted on here, to think it has been lying around since it was dropped at least1700 years ago and you have recovered it for us all to see is amazing.
Would also like to know the size of the piece.
You have definitely seen 2018 out with a(Bang)le.
Would be nice to find another matching section, although the chances would be extremely remote.
Keep doing what you do, look forward to your posts in the upcoming year.
Good Luck in 2019 ::g
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Post by Easylife » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:52 am

Nice one. ::g
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Post by Blackadder43 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:05 am

Those sorts of finds interest me more than the metal and the coins etc
That piece has character, was probably a one off design too, made with love for someone special?
Who made it and for who did they make it for?
Was it a celebration piece or a gift to a partner
Was it for royalty
So many questions on such a small piece and such a small piece invites so much thought
Thank you Paul for posting this find.
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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year!

Post by FUBAR » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:52 am

looks really nice. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year!

Post by Fisher1266X » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:50 pm

HolzHammer wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:46 am
Beautiful- how big is it?
Cheers HH, using a combination of rim charts and tracing, the outer diameter looks to be just under 8cm and the inner diameter is approx 6cm.

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Wish I had found it complete.... :D ::g
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Well spotted , Paul !
As you know have always been interested in your Pottery finds, which are obviously eyes only.
To me this is the Best find you have posted on here, to think it has been lying around since it was dropped at least1700 years ago and you have recovered it for us all to see is amazing.
Would also like to know the size of the piece.
You have definitely seen 2018 out with a(Bang)le.
Would be nice to find another matching section, although the chances would be extremely remote.
Keep doing what you do, look forward to your posts in the upcoming year.
Good Luck in 2019 ::g
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Cheers Dave,
We did say at the time that it was something special and made up for only getting out 8 times this season!
I've tried to recreate the size in the photo above :D
As for 2019, we have a couple of New Year projects on the go that may be interesting.

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Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:05 am
Those sorts of finds interest me more than the metal and the coins etc
That piece has character, was probably a one off design too, made with love for someone special?
Who made it and for who did they make it for?
Was it a celebration piece or a gift to a partner
Was it for royalty
So many questions on such a small piece and such a small piece invites so much thought
Thank you Paul for posting this find.
Thanks Bruce,
We get just as much pleasure finding Medieval or Roman pottery and, as you say, some of the non-metallic artefacts are far more exciting than a Roman or Medieval coin.
It was only on Christmas Day that I was showing my nephew (studying archaeology at Uni) a Roman cheese-making dish.
We ask your questions every time we are out :))

Thank you everyone for posting here and indeed, thank you to everyone that has posted on all our other posts in the various sections on MDF.

A Happy New Year to you all and I hope that we all have success in all that we dream and do.
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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year!

Post by alfaowner » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:16 pm

That’s a lovely find, well done mate 👍


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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year! (with full size mock-up)

Post by Bes99 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:46 pm

If you are interested in glass bangles and want to know a bit more about them there is a really good lecture from Tatiana Lvleva on you tube: . ‘New Research on Romano-British Glass Bangles’

It provides information on types, where your more likely to find them and how they were made.

The image Paul has provided clearly shows small dark iron fragment Inclusions that were left as a result of the production method. This is explained in the YouTube lecture. Paul can you zoom in a bit more and see any air bubbles in the the glass? The direction of the bubbles can tell you more about how it was made.

Blackadder you may see some of your questions answered in the lecture. ::g

Paul the size that you have worked out from the rim chart is perfect, fits to an adult size bangle. ::g

Date range appears to be 50-150AD.
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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year! (with full size mock-up)

Post by Fisher1266X » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:44 pm

Bes99 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:46 pm
If you are interested in glass bangles and want to know a bit more about them there is a really good lecture from Tatiana Lvleva on you tube:. ‘New Research on Romano-British Glass Bangles’

It provides information on types, where your more likely to find them and how they were made.

The image Paul has provided clearly shows small dark iron fragment Inclusions that were left as a result of the production method. This is explained in the YouTube lecture. Paul can you zoom in a bit more and see any air bubbles in the the glass? The direction of the bubbles can tell you more about how it was made.

Blackadder you may see some of your questions answered in the lecture. ::g

Paul the size that you have worked out from the rim chart is prefect, fits to an adult size bangle. ::g

Date range appears to be 50-150AD.
Thanks for the post Robin, I'll see if I can get some close-up's to spot the bubbles.
There is a portion of the bangle that is hollow.

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Post by sweepstick47 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:15 pm

Exceptional Paul, thanks for showing he back-lit results ::g Regards ss47
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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year! (Now with Video)

Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:30 pm

Just spotted this - interesting read on glass bangles https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bitstr ... sequence=1

And there is a project on bangles that you might want to get involved with http://www.romanglassbangles.com/project.html
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Re: Lovely Roman Glass Bangle to End the Year! (Now with Video)

Post by Fisher1266X » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:12 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:30 pm
Just spotted this - interesting read on glass bangles https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bitstr ... sequence=1

And there is a project on bangles that you might want to get involved with http://www.romanglassbangles.com/project.html
Thanks Cath ::g

I've recently had an email from Dr Tatania Ivleva:

"Dear Paul,

Many thanks for contacting me and sharing your find. It is a great fragment of a glass bangle.

Since you have found me, you may be familiar with my datasheet on Romano-British glass bangles that has been published with Roman Finds Group. If not, please find it attach.

Your fragment belongs to relatively common type 2Ci. What makes your piece to stand out is the use of golden brown (amber-like) glass for the cord decoration. While usually the cords are made in opaque white and cobalt blue, the use of golden brown is relatively rare: I know of 14 specimens out of 700 with fragments found in Yorkshire, Durham, Cumbria, Northumberland and one travelled as far as Scotland.

I hope datasheet will provide more background information, but please feel free to ask if you have any further questions.

Please also do feel free to share my datasheet with other finders. They are also very welcome to contact me for any questions relating to glass bangles. I am still in the process of compiling the dataset, so every dot on a map is a very welcome addition to the collection!


Kind regards,
Tatiana

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This can also be seen from other forum members too and it all adds to an overall good PR job for detecting as a whole.

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Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:55 pm

And important to highlight that glass, that many of us would look at and assume is modern, can be very, very old. I wouldn’t have looked at something like that bangle and thought Roman ::g
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