Medieval gold ring

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Medieval gold ring

Post by Mick James » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:27 pm

With the owners permission I have on occasions been detecting in woods for +25 years. Most of the ground there is quite steep, too steep for my partner to detect. Occasionally I clamber around the hillsides in the hope of a roman bronze or Georgian coin whilst Leeanne walks the dog around the pathways. Yesterday I found an area that was flat, a plateau therefore I persuaded Leeanne to come with me this morning and spend a couple of hours getting some practice whilst I detected the hillside.
This was clearly an act of lunacy on my part because since I left the level ground to her, she found a gold ring whilst I found one roman coin on the hillside, my immediate reaction was "its medieval, its treasure, you are walking home" lol. This ring is not unimportant, its certainly gold, possibly with a sapphire stone and in my view it is medieval therefore I am sure that it is treasure. I have informed Bristol/Gloucester Museum, as it happens we have our bi-monthly meeting with them tomorrow evening.
( I would normally refer to her as "she" however it tends to attract criticisms from other she's lol)
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by bazzerhut » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:30 pm

Cor, that's very nice.

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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by Phil2401 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:31 pm

That looks a bit special! Look forward to seeing future posts - well found her / she!

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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by TheAndyA » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:33 pm

What a fantastic find. ::g
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by fred » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:35 pm

That is certainly rather a special ring and I really like it. ::g

I can't see inside the ring but the stone mounting is a little unusual and the stone shows signs of pitting. I'll be interested to know if they think that the stone is a real sapphire and whether the ring actually is Medieval or perhaps a bit later. :D
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by roamingrob » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:59 pm

Cracking find there ... ::g =P~
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Post by Lowland » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:08 pm

Wow ::g
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Post by BAMBAM » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:16 pm

She was destined to find it ..magical!!!
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:17 pm

That made me laugh. Please tell Leeanne her ring is very, very nice indeed l;.
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Post by oldartefact » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:19 pm

Gorgeous... very very very well done.
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by SomersetBeer » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:43 pm

fred wrote:
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That is certainly rather a special ring and I really like it. ::g

I can't see inside the ring but the stone mounting is a little unusual and the stone shows signs of pitting. I'll be interested to know if they think that the stone is a real sapphire and whether the ring actually is Medieval or perhaps a bit later. :D
A fantastic find..Ring shape/design does look of a contemporary style.
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by Me and my boy » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:35 pm

It looks like a gold stirrup ring. I would think the stone is glass and that it’s 12th -14th c

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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by Easylife » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:54 pm

A great find. ::g
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by dondo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:05 am

lovely find.

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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by MIKE1961 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:24 am

Hi. Just like to say there is a similar ring for sale on Ebay for £10,000 under the heading......
13 century Medieval gold sapphire ring metal detector find.
Check it out.

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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by sweepstick47 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:33 am

It's a very nice ring and I likes it muchly! As for an ID, I reckon Me and my boy is on the money ::g Regards ss47
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by Mick James » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:51 am

Funnily enough I have found an identical design but amethyst ring purported to be 13th-14th century on eBay from a dealer with a ~3000 feedback of >98% satisfaction. He is asking £1200 which is in line with those in the book Bennets. If the museum doesn't demand it and the land owner is happy for half its value I've told her that I'll pay it so that she can keep it (yes, more lunacy). I suspect that the land owner will be OK for me to keep it free of charge in order for me to give to her or he may ask for me to make a donation to a charity, I'm pretty sure he won't want the money for himself.
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Post by allmetal » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:33 am

Superb looking ring ::g

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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by benny » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:52 am

stunner, great find. Benny

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Post by Wuntbedruv » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:41 am

Mick James wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:51 am
Funnily enough I have found an identical design but amethyst ring purported to be 13th-14th century on eBay from a dealer with a ~3000 feedback of >98% satisfaction. He is asking £1200 which is in line with those in the book Bennets. If the museum doesn't demand it and the land owner is happy for half its value I've told her that I'll pay it so that she can keep it (yes, more lunacy). I suspect that the land owner will be OK for me to keep it free of charge in order for me to give to her or he may ask for me to make a donation to a charity, I'm pretty sure he won't want the money for himself.
Just FYI, Benets is not a serious publication and it should be observed with a heavy amount of suspicion. Some very strange (fictional) IDs and plucked-out-of-thin-air values in there. It's good as a picture-book, I primarily use it when I lecture Undergraduates about how to describe objects and to show them the different types of things that can be found.
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Post by Bradrick » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:05 pm

A really lovely find Mick and Leanne deserves the bragging rights! :)) You'll get over it matey. B-)
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Post by Rocketstu » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:40 pm

Now that's a cracking find!!
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Post by Spearhead » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:38 pm

It's a lovely find, well done.
Can you confirm that the mark at three o'clock on the first picture and the staining underneath the blue stone are mud remnants? At my first glance I wondered if it had heavy gold plating that was coming off in those couple of places. :D

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Post by Ladybird66 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:06 pm

That’s what you get for being a Gentleman and not putting Leanne in danger. :D

Well done to her, it’s a very nice find. It will be interesting to hear what the outcome is. I think it does have a more modern look to it, but not being an expert, I’ll wait with baited breath.

Please let us know. ::g

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Post by bryan162 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:06 pm

Great looking ring well saved ::g

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Post by oldartefact » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:40 pm

Mick James wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:51 am
Funnily enough I have found an identical design but amethyst ring purported to be 13th-14th century on eBay from a dealer with a ~3000 feedback of >98% satisfaction. He is asking £1200 which is in line with those in the book Bennets. If the museum doesn't demand it and the land owner is happy for half its value I've told her that I'll pay it so that she can keep it (yes, more lunacy). I suspect that the land owner will be OK for me to keep it free of charge in order for me to give to her or he may ask for me to make a donation to a charity, I'm pretty sure he won't want the money for himself.
Have you shown it to the landowner yet?? He, or his Mrs, may well fall in love with it :) :) :) Its a beauty!
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Post by oldartefact » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:45 pm

Ladybird66 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:06 pm
That’s what you get for being a Gentleman and not putting Leanne in danger. :D

Well done to her, it’s a very nice find. It will be interesting to hear what the outcome is. I think it does have a more modern look to it, but not being an expert, I’ll wait with baited breath.

Please let us know. ::g
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by Mick James » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:53 pm

The staining appears to be mud, I was reluctant to scrub or even soak it in detergent in case the stone fell out.
Using the kitchen balance scales my late wife's jewellery box has within it a similar size gold ring with sapphire stone (but at 90 degrees), this ring is slightly lighter than the found ring. She also had a similar size gold plated ring which is substantially lighter than both the others. Therefore the weight of the ring is consistent with a dense material such as gold.
Using my X20 binocular microscope, the found ring has some porosity around the bezel and a deep scratch on the band. The scratch and some of the pores have dirt within, the ones that don't have dirt are gold at the bottom. The LH photo, I did manage to remove the lump of crud from the damaged area at 3oc using a cotton bud and spit >:P its gold underneath.
I could see no evidence of plating but I'm only just about resisting the temptation to soak it in bio washing liquid over night.
The FLO has seen the photo's and believes its genuine however our meeting was cancelled last night due to his health (man flu). The land owner has seen the photo's and has agreed that if the museum doesn't want it, I should get it valued and offer him half the valuation so that Leeanne can keep it (just to shut her up :-* ).
Each and every time I organise a MD dig on his estate (about 5000 acres) under his instruction we donate the dig fee to a charity, I suspect that is what will ultimately happen.
Ps agreed, me and my boy appear to have it right and I reckon, the stone might be glass rather than Sapphire. The ring stone has become etched by the weather elements and it has a wear groove, I reckon glass is more likely to suffer this than sapphire, the third hardest mineral.
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Re: Medieval gold ring

Post by Digiffys » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:51 pm

Bit delayed with my post but that is a STUNNER! Well found and yes im a little jealous ::g ::g ::g
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Post by andy1973 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:09 am

Mick James wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:53 pm

The FLO has seen the photo's and believes its genuine however our meeting was cancelled last night due to his health (man flu).
Lol I wondered why Kurt hasnt been in touch lol this info saves me a email ::g :D
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