The Danish law on treasure trove - 'Danefæ loven'

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The Danish law on treasure trove - 'Danefæ loven'

Post by Ulvir » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:46 pm

The following article is a fairly comprehensive description and explanation on the Danish law on treasure trove, 'Danefæ loven', and the Danish museum worlds relationship to detectorists. The Danish model differs in many ways from practices in the UK, for example, any coin predating 1536 (the reformation in Denmark), is automatically treasure trove. It is illegal to flog it on ebay, or anywhere else, for that matter. Larger or rarer coins of silver and gold from a more recent date, are also treasure trove. In Denmark. a Victoria Sovereign found by you, would not be yours to keep - it automatically belongs to the State, that is, the people, and must be handed in to the local museum. If you feel like making any comments, please, please read the article first - As a Brit living in Denmark, I find the Danish Danefæ law to be damn near perfect. It has it's faults, but as far as recording and preserving Denmarks heritage, not much can beat it..

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Post by Danzigman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:02 pm

Thank you for posting.. I also find Danish Danefae law very close to perfect.. And problems like the "One" in this post would not occur here, as everyone is treated and rewarded fairly - http://www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk/vi ... 21&t=84573" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maybe it is impossible to copy to UK, as the farmers would make objection to the facts of no split. But the hole valuation system in UK could be improved towards the more uniform and fair valuations.
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Post by lordofthecoils » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:39 pm

very interesting and thanks for posting , but if you think we have problems with detecting ethics etc , have a look a Germany , I am lucky as I was brought up to speak German and watch a lot of detecting videos from there.
Firstly there are areas in Germany through poor and confusing legislation whole hillsides containing many hundreds of iron age burials are systematically robbed , and what comes out is astounding large bronze buckets and statues weapons . you would expect this more from a post eastern block country....
Anyway have a look at the finds from this detectorist ,not just this link but look at his other videos his finds are astounding, I have also seen videos of German detectorists who have virtually a museum in their cellars " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; will give you an idea of the quality and quantity of the finds from Germany.

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Post by fred » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:05 pm

Danzigman wrote:Thank you for posting.. I also find Danish Danefae law very close to perfect.. And problems like the "One" in this post would not occur here, as everyone is treated and rewarded fairly - http://www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk/vi ... 21&t=84573" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maybe it is impossible to copy to UK, as the farmers would make objection to the facts of no split. But the hole valuation system in UK could be improved towards the more uniform and fair valuations.
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Is stuff ever disclaimed by the authorities in Denmark.?
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Post by Danzigman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:22 pm

fred wrote:
Danzigman wrote:Thank you for posting.. I also find Danish Danefae law very close to perfect.. And problems like the "One" in this post would not occur here, as everyone is treated and rewarded fairly - http://www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk/vi ... 21&t=84573" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maybe it is impossible to copy to UK, as the farmers would make objection to the facts of no split. But the hole valuation system in UK could be improved towards the more uniform and fair valuations.
Always something good and bad to be said..
Thank you for the Post Ulvir.. OooO
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Is stuff ever disclaimed by the authorities in Denmark.?
NO.. If it comes in under the "Danefæ" it is taken in, and finder rewarde.. Lets say the most seen piece of danefæ is "Borgerkrigsmønter" (Civilwar coins.) covers shifting kings and numerous coins from 1241-1375.. these can be anything form really nice with hig contens of silver, to almost gone and not able to ID.. reward and procedure is the same.. So this it fair. Items very rare or with hig historical interest have individual valuation..
As the procdure is "3 step" or "2 step" nothing is given back to finder.. As you declare that local museum or nearest museum with archaeological competence (here all finds goes through) can keep the item and display or store for research.. It is not legal to sell or keep Danefæ..
Hopes this littel late reply makes sence..
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Post by fred » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:42 am

Cheers

Just wondered. Obviously no shortage of finances available in Denmark then! :D

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Post by Danzigman » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:56 am

fred wrote:Cheers

Just wondered. Obviously no shortage of finances available in Denmark then! :D

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Small country and not anything near find rate in UK.. So I think yearly budget is around 400.000 £
Edit - As you see here in 2014. Pieces found 5312 - outpayment was 3 mil Dkr.
http://natmus.dk/salg-og-ydelser/museum ... etalinger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Edit II - the number of finds in 2015 was 9756 pieces.
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Post by Owain 1405 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:44 am

Interesting post & seems like a good system, not sure it would work in UK as a whole though, but I for one wouldn't mind it being implemented, especially in the smaller countries of the UK like Wales, where less historical population means less finds, and consequently the finds often have greater historical significance than if found elsewhere ::g
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