cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

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cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by chillidog » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:13 am

need some good advice on cleaning this horse harness pendant (i think it is), it really caked up with hard binding dirt.got most i can get off with warm water and soft brush. i slowly picked away on the right side (wing) with a wooden tooth pick with water in which is now showing some sort of silver (gilt ?). not sure if am doing it right or not,but am sure it would come up nice some how.
the centre section looks like an face with one half with green and the other side with red enamel .
i didn't picture size it at the mo until i can get it bit more cleaner
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by alloverover » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:15 am

I wouldn't use water at all, just mechanical cleaning, scalpel, picks etc ::g

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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by Easylife » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:53 am

Probably a slow and gentle approach would be best to avoid losing any gilding or enamel. Maybe Q-tips soaked in something would be best? Looks a good find though. ::g
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:58 am

Hi
It looks a very nice one too-there might be a lot of original finish
underneath the hard layer of muck..
Could be worth a professional clean-but I bet their methods are online somewhere.
As alloverover has said-I would go easy on the water.
Top marks for asking .
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by Sunray » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:00 pm

Lowland wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:58 am
Hi
It looks a very nice one too-there might be a lot of original finish
underneath the hard layer of muck..
Could be worth a professional clean-but I bet their methods are online somewhere.
As alloverover has said-I would go easy on the water.
Top marks for asking .
Cheers
Rory ::g
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by fred » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:07 pm

It needs to be recorded before you set to work on it. After that you just have to remember that it probably won't come up like it looked seven or eight hundred years ago when it was new. There comes a time in the cleaning process when you just have to accept that you have done the best that you can. ::g
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by sweepstick47 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:10 am

As ever, good advice above from Fred ::g In my view, the first consideration and objective with any item being cleaned should be conservation rather than restoration. There's a fine line between 'acceptable' and 'excessive' when undertaking cleaning most finds and it's worth remembering that the results, whether considered sympathetic or otherwise, are never reversible. The old adage 'sometimes less means more' sits well in such cases ::g

Good Luck with the project and perhaps keep us informed of the results. ::g Regards - ss47
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by chillidog » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:26 am

i had it soaking in pure ro water for a few days in which should neutralize any chemical reaction in the dirt and then i gave it a very a soft brush only with an mohair paint brush,on the right side of the wing some of the hard dirt did soften up a bit to reveal some more silver gilding.
but then i decided to leave it alone in the end and wait till i see the flo
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by littleboot » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:52 pm

I never used water, distilled or otherwise, on copper alloys. Always better to keep the artifact as dry as possible IMO.
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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by pakeha » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:08 pm

Bronze disease needs to be stabilised first,for that I use benzotriazole in a solution of methylated spirits,left in for a few days or so then followed up by a coat of incralac.I purchased these items from Detecnicks.Other people have their own ways which i'm sure suffice,but this is my procedure,

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Re: cleaning advice for a horse harness pendant

Post by garrettoldboy » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:27 am

hello, i have cleaned 100s of bronze artifacts using a sonic Jewellery cleaner and warm water and never had any problem of damadged items, only dirt or crud just dissolves in the water leaving a more natural look, follow on by drying out ( warm hair dryer) then rub on a small amount of some micro crystalline wax (liquefied) that museums use to protect artifacts,

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