1st time using Electrolysis

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1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:35 am

The coin had some detail but I wanted to see if I could get more and get rid of the green lumps covering the coin so I researched electrolysis and made a home made job and gave it a go.

It worked a treat with this 1806 George III penny and got me better detail and a better colour (it didn't have the nice green patina) I won't use it on the nice green patina coins.

I also used it on my 1805 George III Irish Half Penny and so much more detail came up including the date and some detail of the harp.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by thefiggis » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:43 am

Great result ::g

Electrolysis can reveal otherwise indiscernable detail. If it doesn't, I generally give the coin a buff with wire wool and this often highlights any detail enough to at least attribute the coin if not the date.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:47 am

thefiggis wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:43 am
Great result ::g

Electrolysis can reveal otherwise indiscernable detail. If it doesn't, I generally give the coin a buff with wire wool and this often highlights any detail enough to at least attribute the coin if not the date.
I was really happy with the result and prefer the colour and feel of the coin now so well worth a go for coins that are pretty shot.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Chilgrove » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:03 am

Interesting post; thanks for showing this. I have been thinking about building an electrolysis system too.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:18 pm

Chilgrove wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:03 am
Interesting post; thanks for showing this. I have been thinking about building an electrolysis system too.
I made mine in less than 2 minutes so very easy and works very well.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by stargazer » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:48 pm

Can be dangerous to the coins can electrolysis.

I wouldn't personally use it on anything now but Victorian silver. More valuable and it's a no from me.

Copper always gets trashed and pitted IMHO.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Twit » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:56 pm

stargazer wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:48 pm
Can be dangerous to the coins can electrolysis.

I wouldn't personally use it on anything now but Victorian silver. More valuable and it's a no from me.

Copper always gets trashed and pitted IMHO.
Agree, not a great fan of electrolysis. The copper is usually pitted like that already under the patina though, electrolysis emphasizes it.

Also better to use bicarbonate of soda as electrolyte, not salt.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by oldartefact » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:58 pm

Thats a great result, many thanks for sharing.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:45 pm

Lookin good
It doesn’t half take the grime off..
You could try re patinating it a bit
I keep meaning to find out how :D
As an alternative-
Could post a picture of some that were of similar appearance to your one
After a week in my pocket with some loose change.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:07 pm

Lowland wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:45 pm
Lookin good
It doesn’t half take the grime off..
You could try re patinating it a bit
I keep meaning to find out how :D
As an alternative-
Could post a picture of some that were of similar appearance to your one
After a week in my pocket with some loose change.
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Thanks, I quite like it like that but am thinking of waxing it what kind of wax would you recommend?

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by cantona1 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:12 pm

Renaissance Wax ::g

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:13 pm

Hwe’re the pocket tumbled ones...
Very fine wire wool works well too.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:16 pm

The cool thing is
Once you get some more George’s under your belt
You can try all sorts of stuff :D
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by PeakDetectorist » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:19 pm

Really good results Ashjacko I might give it a try sometime and see what I can get out of a few coins.

Out of interest, how long did you spend on the coin?
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:40 am

PeakDetectorist wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:19 pm
Really good results Ashjacko I might give it a try sometime and see what I can get out of a few coins.

Out of interest, how long did you spend on the coin?
I put it in a few times so maybe half an hour in total.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:41 am

Lowland wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:13 pm
Hwe’re the pocket tumbled ones...
Very fine wire wool works well too.
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They look cool! I love the cartwheel I hope I find one of those.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:43 am

The cartwheel will come!
Most are toast mind :D
Give a good signal.
Look forward to seeing more of your finds
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:47 am

Lowland wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:43 am
The cartwheel will come!
Most are toast mind :D
Give a good signal.
Look forward to seeing more of your finds
::g
Thank you very much, I have only found 5 coins so far but all been different and mostly different Kings and Queens.

1= George III Penny 1806.
2= George III Irish Half Penny 1805.
3= George V Penny 1931.
4= George II Half Penny 1727-1760.
5= This one.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:53 am

ashjacko wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:47 am
Lowland wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:43 am
The cartwheel will come!
Most are toast mind :D
Give a good signal.
Look forward to seeing more of your finds
::g
Thank you very much, I have only found 5 coins so far but all been different and mostly different Kings and Queens.

1= George III Penny 1806.
2= George III Irish Half Penny 1805.
3= George V Penny 1931.
4= George II Half Penny 1727-1760.
5= This one.
Wait till a bit of Georgian milled silver appears!!(I’ve found none-so I’m still waiting)
Or one like this :-O
Don’t think I will electrocute this one.
From a big house lawn-no agriculture and must have been fairly new when dropped
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:01 am

Lowland wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:53 am
ashjacko wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:47 am
Lowland wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:43 am
The cartwheel will come!
Most are toast mind :D
Give a good signal.
Look forward to seeing more of your finds
::g
Thank you very much, I have only found 5 coins so far but all been different and mostly different Kings and Queens.

1= George III Penny 1806.
2= George III Irish Half Penny 1805.
3= George V Penny 1931.
4= George II Half Penny 1727-1760.
5= This one.
Wait till a bit of Georgian milled silver appears!!(I’ve found none-so I’m still waiting)
Or one like this :-O
Don’t think I will electrocute this one.
From a big house lawn-no agriculture and must have been fairly new when dropped
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That's a lovely coin! I hope I get stuff like that.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:39 am

No doubt about it...
You have the main weapon
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:06 am

Lowland wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:39 am
No doubt about it...
You have the main weapon
...enthusiasm
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I do indeed! apart from today as it's -2.5 degrees lol.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by felixthecat » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:16 am

i used to do this but never had a good outcome. modern milled silver may improve a little if stained but everything else gets pitted and looks worse than new.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:29 am

felixthecat wrote:
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i used to do this but never had a good outcome. modern milled silver may improve a little if stained but everything else gets pitted and looks worse than new.
I used it on a completely blank green disc and after you can plainly see the head and turns out it may be a William III & Mary Half Penny from 1694 so it definitely has it's benefits.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Lowland » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:20 pm

ashjacko wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:29 am
felixthecat wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:16 am
i used to do this but never had a good outcome. modern milled silver may improve a little if stained but everything else gets pitted and looks worse than new.
I used it on a completely blank green disc and after you can plainly see the head and turns out it may be a William III & Mary Half Penny from 1694 so it definitely has it's benefits.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Mud Max » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:10 pm

The trick with electrolysis is only to use to loosen the outer crud. Don't take it out and keep dropping it back in expecting the electrolysis to do all the work, or it ends up wrecking the coin.

It works very well at taking off the bad stuff and getting some detail off the crudded up coppers, but you want to give it 60 seconds and then return to a good spell of regular cleaning before you do any more. And know when to stop.

Two or three 60 second dips at the most and clean slowly with brushes etc

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by felixthecat » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:47 pm

ashjacko wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:29 am
felixthecat wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:16 am
i used to do this but never had a good outcome. modern milled silver may improve a little if stained but everything else gets pitted and looks worse than new.
I used it on a completely blank green disc and after you can plainly see the head and turns out it may be a William III & Mary Half Penny from 1694 so it definitely has it's benefits.
sorry i cant see any more detail in the photos, this coin was not a blank disk originally just a different colour. there was a lot of detail in the original and no more gained after treatment imo.
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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by ashjacko » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:41 pm

felixthecat wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:47 pm
ashjacko wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:29 am
felixthecat wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:16 am
i used to do this but never had a good outcome. modern milled silver may improve a little if stained but everything else gets pitted and looks worse than new.
I used it on a completely blank green disc and after you can plainly see the head and turns out it may be a William III & Mary Half Penny from 1694 so it definitely has it's benefits.
sorry i cant see any more detail in the photos, this coin was not a blank disk originally just a different colour. there was a lot of detail in the original and no more gained after treatment imo.
I wasn't talking about this coin but another one that it improved 1000%, this one was a blue colour and had green lumps on it that all came off. I will only be doing this with worthless coins or blank ones and I won't be doing it with ones with a nice green patina.

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Re: 1st time using Electrolysis

Post by Twit » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:00 pm

Difficult topic cleaning :D .

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