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Delay in Treasure process

Post by Jungle » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:11 am

I found out that due to budget cuts, my FLO now only visits BM twice a year to drop off items for investigation and collect items they have finished with. Depending on timings, this adds up to 6 months to delay before Inquest can take place.
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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by jcmaloney » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:56 pm

Report it to the coroner local to where it was found.Your legal duty done.
E-mail Ian Richardson (Treasure Registrar) at the BM and take it in yourself.
Specialists at the BM can write the report.

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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by beaubrummell » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:34 pm

jcmaloney wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:56 pm
Report it to the coroner local to where it was found.Your legal duty done.
E-mail Ian Richardson (Treasure Registrar) at the BM and take it in yourself.
Specialists at the BM can write the report.

Its a great day out!

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That sounds like a great idea.

I can't even get the Essex FLO to answer an email. B|
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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by alfaowner » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:09 pm

beaubrummell wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:34 pm
jcmaloney wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:56 pm
Report it to the coroner local to where it was found.Your legal duty done.
E-mail Ian Richardson (Treasure Registrar) at the BM and take it in yourself.
Specialists at the BM can write the report.

Its a great day out!

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That sounds like a great idea.

I can't even get the Essex FLO to answer an email. B|
The treasure process can take years , Katie marsden is based in essex , I found her to be very helpful and answered calls and emails ::g

Katie.marsden@colchester.gov.uk ::g

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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by littlebottleshop » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:55 am

I believe the Essex FLOs email address is Sophie.flynn@colchester.gov.uk

Katie Marsden hasn't worked there for a few years

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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by Bridex » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:22 pm

My 'find' was reported and collected by FLO in October 2015. Still waiting for an inquest - now late November 2017.
Despite several emails and 'negative' replies there seems to be no progress.

This doesn't encourage reporting at all, some finders of reportable items might not bother!


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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by jcmaloney » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:32 pm

Bridex wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:22 pm
My 'find' was reported and collected by FLO in October 2015. Still waiting for an inquest - now late November 2017.
Despite several emails and 'negative' replies there seems to be no progress.

This doesn't encourage reporting at all, some finders of reportable items might not bother!


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I would go above the FLO to the Central Unit (your FLO`s "bosses" ) at the BM. Give them the Treasure reference number and remind them of the advised timescales. ::g

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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by alloverover » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:58 pm

alfaowner wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:09 pm
beaubrummell wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:34 pm
jcmaloney wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:56 pm
Report it to the coroner local to where it was found.Your legal duty done.
E-mail Ian Richardson (Treasure Registrar) at the BM and take it in yourself.
Specialists at the BM can write the report.

Its a great day out!

::g ::g
That sounds like a great idea.

I can't even get the Essex FLO to answer an email. B|
The treasure process can take years , Katie marsden is based in essex , I found her to be very helpful and answered calls and emails ::g

Katie.marsden@colchester.gov.uk ::g
I found her to be rubbish, she did a flit with the pictures of 49 hammered and about another 100 artefacts I found from one site ( after me providing her with all the id.s of the coins etc and going home to get my own scales as she didnt have hers with her).

She didnt feel the finds worthy of leaving the details with her colleagues even though Geoff Egan had written a paper on the same type of finds from the same site ( found some years before) saying they were the biggest collection of such artefacts from one site and very important....I had found many more than the original find .

She lost, mislaid or pilfered ( call it what you want) an extremely fine 14th century scabbard chape from the same site, oh how careless.

Totally unprofessional, she then, from what I was told, failed to respond to any of her former employers phone calls or emails on this subject whilst in her new position somewhere in the west country, wonderfull.

This is the type of person you all place your trust in with your hard found goodies ;;z

Katie, if you read this, have the decency to apolagize for loosing my stuff and forward the records and images you took to your former employers, you could explain your actions while your at it to.

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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by Oxgirl36 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:15 pm

In their defence do you know how much a FLO gets paid? Between £21-23k per year. It’s rubbish for the unsociable hours and weekend work they do.

Not that it’s an excuse for mislaying items or not handing over files when leaving their post B|
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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by alloverover » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:23 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:15 pm
In their defence do you know how much a FLO gets paid? Between £21-23k per year. It’s rubbish for the unsociable hours and weekend work they do.

Not that it’s an excuse for mislaying items or not handing over files when leaving their post B|
It should be a vocation Oxgirl, to record our countries history, money is obviously very important to everybody but ive always said it, an FLO should love their job ::g

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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by king of the swingers » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:45 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:15 pm
In their defence do you know how much a FLO gets paid? Between £21-23k per year. It’s rubbish for the unsociable hours and weekend work they do.

Not that it’s an excuse for mislaying items or not handing over files when leaving their post B|
lol there starting wage 23 grand for 37 hour a week plus try telling them you want to see them on a weekend and see were that gets you. Dont get me wrong i like the flo but they on a good crack .
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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by geoman » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:50 pm

You need to chase the lost item - where she was employed will have insurance to cover the loss of items. Get in touch with her former employer and explain the situation. Send them details of the item, photos and your PAS receipt and see what they have to say.
PAS receipts in the early days carried a disclaimer if items were lost or stolen whilst in their posession, but that was discontinued some years ago.
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Re: Delay in Treasure process

Post by sweepstick47 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:51 pm

:( Surely there should be 'a duty of care' pertaining to finds and associated items received into professional custody. I'm pretty sure, that Items which are not required under the terms of the PAS, are usually (if not without exception) returned to the finder.

Of course we shouldn't prejudge the case as there could well be unknown and extenuating circumstances. However, it's certainly a matter that you could follow up.
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