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wet bottle dig but nice finds .

Post by kenleyboy » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:41 pm

Unpredictable weather forecast today so an early start for me and despite still digging once the rain came down , it turned out to be quite productive . Sometimes the bottle digging takes a theme , one week it seems to be ginger beer bottles all round , others plenty of sauce bottles and clay pipes but today was ink pourer day . They come in various guises and todays variety was one I doubt I will experience again . The vast majority of ink pourers tend to be stoneware and come in a bog standard brown while others are caramel and cream and I have to admit I quite like finding them in all their shapes and sizes . Most are plain and unmarked and were churned out by the thousands but very now and again the odd one will have a makers stamp incised into the clay prior to kiln firing and sometimes a number will denote the year it was made . I number 5 would be 1905 and so on but these are rare to find . All the same I like the design and shape .

With the sun just peeking out to herald the start of a new day , the warmth was to be short lived and as the morning progressed the sky turned grey and the threat of rain clouds loomed in the distance , it was a stark difference to the previous weekend dig under a belting hot sun . The cool air was welcomed and the copse gave cover against the predicted shower and I was relatively dry to continue my dig .
Such was the delight in finding the first two stoneware inks it was more than equalled when the neat little black glass ink pourer showed itself . I have never dug one this small and dainty before , it was unmarked , not a scratch or a scuff to be seen . It looked fragile and was soon dwarfed by its larger more robust cousins when laid side by side on the wet grass . If this was all I would walk away with from todays efforts I would be justifiably happy but no it was to get better .

Apart from the usual broken and common enough bottles my next surprise find was the the aqua poison and known otherwise as the " Herring Bone " poison due to its concave shape and the ribbed glass pattern . This is a rare bottle , there is a slight bit of damage to the rim of the rear lip but I can repair this and although disappointing it does display well and stands at only 3 inches tall , another first for me of this kind .

I must have hit a good spot albeit a rather wet depth as the water table gurgled its way to the top , never had this problem here on the Farm tip before but I am now digging towards an old irrigation ditch so no doubt that perhaps this has something to do with it . However in amongst the wet slush were more bottles and a nice surprise cased Gin in dark green , a beautiful design in glass full of streaks and air bubbles giving this a unique character . Sauce , Camp Coffee and endless plain med bottles later another first was a tiny dinky little flat back hobnail coffin poison bottle , 2 inches tall and how on earth I spotted this amongst the slush I will never know .Once again no damage at all , nice and clean and just laying in the wet sludge bright and blue and awaiting its rightful place on the smallies shelf back home .

Two very good poison bottles but the pouring ink bottle theme continued with with a nice early aqua and a printed stoneware pourer for blacking fluid , that also made my day despite the now heavy rain .
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It was quite cosy under the cape of the willow trees and it was time for a rest up and have a welcomed cuppa and sit back and watch the rain pour down outside the protective fringe of branches , no Butterflies today .
Back on it but things were beginning to get a little mucky and the relentless rain was now making its way into the copse through the once protective canopy but the continuation of decent enough bottles kept coming and were soon lining up on the edge of my hole .
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To be honest there were too many to bring home this time round , a few I knew that would be gifted could stay behind and be picked up at the next visit unless I get bogged down with finds again , so now it was time for a pick and choose . The rest would be bubble wrapped and popped carefully into my rucksack while the stay behinds would rest up against the trunk of the willow to await collection another day .
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Finds cleaned up and the best of the bunch makes a good dig .
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Re: wet bottle dig but nice finds .

Post by fred » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:08 pm

More superb finds and a great story. ::g

PS What is this wet 'rain' thing that you mention? :D
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Post by sweepstick47 » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:39 pm

Another good tale of a successful dig with some very nice bottles to show for it. The tall necked 'cobalt' blue pourer is a real eye catcher and the printed 'jet black' leather dye pourer is a cracking example too ::g Regards ss47
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Post by Ladybird66 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:30 am

Some really nice bottles there, I’d be hard pressed to choose which to take and which to leave for fear of them not being there when I returned.
You are to be congratulated on your perseverance in such conditions. I agree the reward was worth it.
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Post by Easylife » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:24 am

A nice write up and great finds. ::g
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Post by ajb6864 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:52 am

Great write-up again!

Do you mind me asking how many bottles you have and how do you display/store them? It would be great to see a photo of your best finds shown in situ in your home.

You've got me interested in looking for bottles myself now!

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Post by kenleyboy » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:50 am

PS What is this wet 'rain' thing that you mention? :D

A special type of rain only found top here in Norfolk :D
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Post by kenleyboy » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:57 am

Ladybird66 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:30 am
Some really nice bottles there, I’d be hard pressed to choose which to take and which to leave for fear of them not being there when I returned.
You are to be congratulated on your perseverance in such conditions. I agree the reward was worth it.
Well found and well dug ::g
Fortunately there is no chance of these left behinds being taken . The tip is on private land with no public access although there is always a chance someone could chance upon them . Sadly I do not have permission to metal detect as someone else already has the land . Yet to meet them but they could stumble upon them .
On an earlier tip we had which has now been "dug out" , there was public footpath close by and a few asked us if they could have any bottles we didn't want . After clearing up and making good we would leave what we didn't want in a neat pile and all would be gone by our next return .
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:04 am

An ink pourer? Never heard of that before and didn’t understand how you could distinguish them from any other bottle till I saw the cleaned up bottles and the pouring lip. Very cool thing - I would have thought the lip on them would often get damaged.

Lovely write up - keep the stories coming ::g
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Re: wet bottle dig but nice finds .

Post by Dave The Slave » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:17 am

Well Paul, another great write up with photos.
I had never heard of an ink pourer before. Your finds are giving us a good History lesson.
I know you have dug hundreds , even thousands of bottles but I would struggle to leave anything behind.
Keep up the reports.
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Re: wet bottle dig but nice finds .

Post by kenleyboy » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:38 pm

ajb6864 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:52 am
Great write-up again!

Do you mind me asking how many bottles you have and how do you display/store them? It would be great to see a photo of your best finds shown in situ in your home.

You've got me interested in looking for bottles myself now!

Kindest regards,
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Believe it or not my collection is small by collecting terms and most of what I own is what I have dug myself over the years except for a few swaps , freebies and a couple of purchases that have come my way on a few occasions . It can be a relatively cheap hobby depending on what appeals to you and I would not class myself of one of the "must have " type of collectors that are willing to pay vast amounts of money for a particularly rare bottle .My approach isn't about specialising in a certain type of bottle but more about the actual hunt in finding and saving things from our past .

However if there was one type of bottle that appeals to me above all else it has to be blue glass and these are poisons and inks . In general though if it is old and looks handmade which a lot of earlier bottles were by being free blown rather than machine made then these are more my thing , having that human touch to its creation makes it that more unique than a production run bottle .

The green bottles except for the green codd to the right are free blown with applied lips . The varying degrees of imperfections and air bubbles etc I find more interesting and having dug each one personally then they have a little more meaning attached to them . Not expensive bottles if you were to buy them , most serious collectors would turn their noses up but for me it isn't about value but more about unique hand blown glass and they date from 1880 - 1890s .
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The amber bottles once again not rare but in very good order , strong embossing and design and a few local connections being from London and Watford .1900-1920s .
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My favourite coloured glass , the blue poison and inks , most of them dug but a few purchases and swaps .Varying degrees of design , shapes and colours . So much thought put into a simple everyday item that was common place back in the day , compare these to the mass produced plastic throw aways we have today , no comparison .
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Flagons are quite large items and take up a bit of space but could not resist the Benskins being from my old Town and this was purchased but the the other flagons were dug . The smaller stoneware bottle is an early Porter 1850-60 , quite a rare find and for a bottle over a 150 years old it is amazing that it survived so long without any damage .
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It is a nice pleasant hobby with just rewards if it is your thing . It was very popular in the 70s and that was really its boom time and tips were fairly easy to find and also gain access to without much objection . It was common practice back then for schools to take a class of kids bottle hunting , one of many things young children benefit from in being outdoors and exploring .Times have moved on and it is not so easy with many new laws and rules in place which prevent that freedom of exploring . Some of it is by and large a good thing but with the restrictions of health and safety we are now not so relaxed . There are dangers involved and that can be said for many outdoor hobbies , just a case of being sensible and cautious .
A lot of tips have now been built upon but there are still plenty out there and searching for them is also part of the fun . Same rules apply with metal detecting , just the holes are bigger , but fill them back in and of course gaining permission and that is also a challenge yet I have had more luck with bottle digging permissions compared with metal detecting .
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Post by johnboy25 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:47 pm

Enjoyed reading your post and lovely collection of bottles 👍

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Post by ajb6864 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:01 pm

Fantastic! Does anybody still say that?

Brilliant collection and even more importantly a personal and compelling reason for acquiring and collecting them.

Looking forward to your next post!

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Post by Keef the Frog » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:18 am

Nice case gin ! ::g
I never found a whole one & they where something of a rarity.

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Post by Bypass2 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 pm

Great story. nice finds ::g

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Post by Blackadder43 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:27 pm

Oh wow, those blue bottles are gorgeous
Well done and great stories and photos, keep em coming sir
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