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first time bottle digging

Post by MLDetect » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:24 pm

I recently discovered a bottle dump on a pasture field when i dug an iffy signal.
I took out a few broken bits of bottle and found a broken wg mothersoles of mildenhall bottle.
Being interested in mildenhall history i decided to go back and carefully dig deeper, found quite a few in tact bottles including this 5 which all still have glass marbles inside the neck.
To top it off one is a complete W G Mothersoles bottle.
The others are all cambridge companies.
2 x woods and son
1 x wadsworth
1 x Waters.
Im happy with them
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Euro Detector » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:26 pm

Very nice ::g Sounds like you had a good day out.
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:47 pm

Awesome.
Wadsworth if I remember correctly had a cobalt blue codd!
Muchos dosh....
Dig a bit deeper.
Nice one
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by MLDetect » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:10 pm

Oh really .
The father in law has a digger on same land might pull a bucket of soil up carefully.
I pulled up broken bits of blue glass but no markings and nothing whole

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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by fred » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:10 pm

Very nice indeed! ::g
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:04 am

It's always nice to get local bottles
There should be stoneware ginger beers in there as well.
It's good to see whole codds..means the kids didn't get to them for the marbles!
Is there owt on old maps saying there was a gravel pit or quarry etc on the spot?

The deeper you go the older the gear should get!!
Wait till you hit the pot lids and ointment pots...
All the best
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Edit to say...really good gloves
And beware-all sorts of nasty stuff went into these dumps as well.
Also what looks like the bottom of the dump may just be a layer of capping on older goodies.
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by MLDetect » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 pm

Lowland wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:04 am
It's always nice to get local bottles
There should be stoneware ginger beers in there as well.
It's good to see whole codds..means the kids didn't get to them for the marbles!
Is there owt on old maps saying there was a gravel pit or quarry etc on the spot?

The deeper you go the older the gear should get!!
Wait till you hit the pot lids and ointment pots...
All the best
LL
Edit to say...really good gloves
And beware-all sorts of nasty stuff went into these dumps as well.
Also what looks like the bottom of the dump may just be a layer of capping on older goodies.
Hi yes there was a gravel pit, but hadnt put the two things together until you just said that.

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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:44 pm

mildenhalldetect wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 pm
Lowland wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:04 am
It's always nice to get local bottles
There should be stoneware ginger beers in there as well.
It's good to see whole codds..means the kids didn't get to them for the marbles!
Is there owt on old maps saying there was a gravel pit or quarry etc on the spot?

The deeper you go the older the gear should get!!
Wait till you hit the pot lids and ointment pots...
All the best
LL
Edit to say...really good gloves
And beware-all sorts of nasty stuff went into these dumps as well.
Also what looks like the bottom of the dump may just be a layer of capping on older goodies.
Hi yes there was a gravel pit, but hadnt put the two things together until you just said that.
Oh well.
Happy days
It could have some really good depth then
And run way back into Victorian stuff...
U cld have hit the motherlode me old China.
If I was you I would keep it under wraps
The nighttime version of bottle diggers are more voracious than metal detecting ones ::g and leave much bigger holes.
If you want a hand I can be there in about 6 hours!
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by MLDetect » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:16 pm

Lowland wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:44 pm
mildenhalldetect wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 pm
Lowland wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:04 am
It's always nice to get local bottles
There should be stoneware ginger beers in there as well.
It's good to see whole codds..means the kids didn't get to them for the marbles!
Is there owt on old maps saying there was a gravel pit or quarry etc on the spot?

The deeper you go the older the gear should get!!
Wait till you hit the pot lids and ointment pots...
All the best
LL
Edit to say...really good gloves
And beware-all sorts of nasty stuff went into these dumps as well.
Also what looks like the bottom of the dump may just be a layer of capping on older goodies.
Hi yes there was a gravel pit, but hadnt put the two things together until you just said that.
Oh well.
Happy days
It could have some really good depth then
And run way back into Victorian stuff...
U cld have hit the motherlode me old China.
If I was you I would keep it under wraps
The nighttime version of bottle diggers are more voracious than metal detecting ones ::g and leave much bigger holes.
If you want a hand I can be there in about 6 hours!
I have no idea how to start the process of digging bottles, i know the rough area i dug the bottles from but have no pole or anything to test areas.
If your offer was serious id possibly take you up on that

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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:19 pm

I will write a good reply later when the circus is over for the day here! ::g
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:02 pm

When it comes to bottles I'm always serious!!
However I'm a bit far away :(

If there's no pressure to get it done, the best bet is to just start at an edge and nibble away and in to the dump At your leisure
Clear a good sized working area a few feet deep at a time.
Go down in stages.
Start a scrap pile,can be worthwhile.
Starting in the middle is a bad idea...there could be big voids underfoot.
Or large hidden objects....tractors cars bedspreads the dreaded rolls of wire etc-
If there's codds on top there's not a lot of modern overburden/capping--that's a bonus.
Keep it to yourself locally..the walls have ears and spades!there Is a lot of money potentially in your dump.
Everything went into old dumps so beware ,keep eyes peeled for asbestos...sometimes older dumps got a fresh hole put in them to get rid of the damned stuff.
If so walk away.
Old chemicals can be found in country dumps too.
Plus a myriad of other nasties.
If it's an ash filled tip then it will get dusty -another good reason not to dig deep foxhole style holes
As well as the risks of cave ins when a bit deeper-always have an exit strategy.

Might be stating the obvious about tidying up and filling in holes but broken glass is evil stuff.

On the plus side a lot of very varied local history could be in there.
Not to mention a fantastic bottle collection
And a good chance of some real rarities ....you're in an excellent part of the world.
Some bottles have given me a holiday before.

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Tough work Gloves
Dust mask optional but wise.

Avoid the digger route...I have seen very good stuff wrecked with a digger
Including a matchless polish enamel sign.
Although Diggers can be handy for the big stuff and clearing away loose trimmings.

There's loads more... ::g
Hard to type with three bairns running about!
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by MLDetect » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:21 pm

Thanks for the info, im looking forward to digging now cant do anything for a couple of weeks as wife works weekends and i have 3 kids to look after. Digging bottle dumps is not ideal activity when with kids.
In a couple of weeks they are going to their nans so should clear me a day to mess about

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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:41 pm

mildenhalldetect wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:21 pm
Thanks for the info, im looking forward to digging now cant do anything for a couple of weeks as wife works weekends and i have 3 kids to look after. Digging bottle dumps is not ideal activity when with kids.
In a couple of weeks they are going to their nans so should clear me a day to mess about
No bother ::g
Should have said...
A good strong garden fork is essential,for loosening up the bottom of the hole and bringing down the sides
Also a tarpaulin or plywood sheets for your spoil heap make tidying up a doddle.

And if it's looking like a real good deep prospect .
I can organise a team who do this kind of thing for fun ::g
Also got three young 'Uns,so it might be a few years down the line!
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Keef the Frog » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:41 am

Nice find MHD, sorry it's late but I've not been here long.
I used to dig around Bury as a kid, back then it was £4 for a biggun & £2 for a small at antique fairs at the Corn Exchange or half price to antique shops. None of us needed paper rounds. What's now Parkway was the best dig, we had 95 Codds out one evening using the extremely stupid foxhole style.
40 & a bit years later I've only got one keeper which is a cobalt blue pint o' poison which looks like it was made yesterday.
When the glass was cloudy we called it "bottle sickness" dunno if that was an official term

Good luck & keep schtum

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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:03 am

Great advice from Lowland. Shame he isn’t closer as it sounds like the 2 of you could have a great day out together.

Could you carry on posting pics of any good finds? I suspect quite a few of us like to look at old bottles. The ones you’ve found already are lovely :D

Happy (and safe) Digging ::g
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by MLDetect » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:17 pm

Not been back to bottle dump yet. Been out on my farmers fields while crops are off. I plan to go back to dump in spring time. Will keep you posted

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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:40 pm

Is it spring time yet :D
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by shaggybfc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:50 pm

There's an old dump where I live. As kids, we used to play there, digging and messing about in the old pig pens. I was known as Stig of he dump, and always was covered in grime :)) We used to fetch out loads of bottles and coins, Viccy Pennies etc... in fact, I had more coins out of there than I've ever had detecting. The area is totally over grown now, and hasn't been touched for the past 40 years. I have no idea who owns it... this post has got me thinking though,,, I will be finding out in the near future... I predict a dump dig soon ::g
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by Lowland » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:25 pm

shaggybfc wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:50 pm
There's an old dump where I live. As kids, we used to play there, digging and messing about in the old pig pens. I was known as Stig of he dump, and always was covered in grime :)) We used to fetch out loads of bottles and coins, Viccy Pennies etc... in fact, I had more coins out of there than I've ever had detecting. The area is totally over grown now, and hasn't been touched for the past 40 years. I have no idea who owns it... this post has got me thinking though,,, I will be finding out in the near future... I predict a dump dig in the near future ::g
I’m doon there the now
Awesome gear at the bottom o’ it
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Re: first time bottle digging

Post by fisheruk » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:47 pm

Many different types of Codd bottles, some of the more uncommon are coloured, coloured lip only, codd hamilton (pointed base) hybrid, they are worth researching any you find as some can be worth a lot more than others.
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