Victorian ?? Glenlivet bottle?

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Victorian ?? Glenlivet bottle?

Post by Steevo45 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:39 pm

Years ago my dad found a old glenlivet bottle whilst working on what we believe to be a Victorian dump. The bottle is intact and even still has the cork in. Will get some photos next time I'm at their house just wondered if this was a rare find

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Re: Victorian ?? Glenlivet bottle?

Post by Lowland » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:45 pm

Steevo45 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:39 pm
Years ago my dad found a old glenlivet bottle whilst working on what we believe to be a Victorian dump. The bottle is intact and even still has the cork in. Will get some photos next time I'm at their house just wondered if this was a rare find

Cheers
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Hiya
Early labelled EMPTY whisky bottles can be worth very good dosh.

And embossed applied lip bottles dug from middens are very attractive and collected.
Glenlivet distillery was founded in the early 1800s
So potential for a nice bottle
I look forward to the pictures.
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Post by Steevo45 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:18 pm

It seems old, nice little imperfections and bubbles in the glass. He has loads of bits and pieces the whisky bottle and a queen Victoria tooth paste pot lid are some of my favourite things he has brought home. I'm at their house tomorrow so will get a few photos

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Post by Lowland » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:40 pm

Sounds right
And it has glenlivet embossed on it ?
If so pretty cool
If the lip an applied one
Bit cooler still.
The wonkier the better!(air bubbles and the like)
Colour of the glass can make a difference as well.
The Victoria pot lid sounds tasty
Bet it's a gosnells.
They're pretty nice
Great underglaze print of queen Victoria
They also did a tiny 'button' pot lid
Same transfer print only smaller.
Did see pictures years back in BBR magazine of a giant one... think it was a shop display piece?
Get the pictures up mun
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Post by Steevo45 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:10 pm

Yeah I'll have a look what he has lurking about, thinks it's one of the reasons I now go detecting as a kid I used to love cleaning up the bottles and stuff he brought home. He has loads of stuff I get some pics uploaded this week

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Post by Steevo45 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:45 pm

Couple of photos here but difficult to make out writing but hopefully you will be able to tell me a bit about it

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Post by fred » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:50 pm

Very nice! ::g
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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:31 pm

Nice bottle
Good colour
Great shape
Looks as you suspected-later Victorian.
Best clue would be the lip
Does the seam on the either side of the bottle run right up through the lip?(making it more of an Edwardian onwards job)
Or stop at the bottom of the lip which should look a little bit drippy and uneven.
From the photo looks to be an applied lip,bit hard to tell!
The round space in the middle would have had a lovely label.
It's definately a good collectible bottle
I've never dug or seen one but if I was spinning it on an auction site I'd expect between 20-30£+

When I first saw the photos I thought it looked like a 3 sided dimple bottle-but pretty sure haigs whisky have that shape patented.
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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:34 pm

Out of interest what does the embossing say in full?
Cannae mak oot the stairt o the writing?
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Post by Steevo45 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Will have a look at the top tomorrow as I have to call round again. The writing says glenlivet distillery and a place name begins with A (can't remember now haha) that is on 2 sides and the third side says (an initial?) H? Holt & sons. The cork is still in but the top has broken off and now been lost unfortunately
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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:59 pm

Hi
Would like a photo of the whole base
And lip if possible
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Post by Steevo45 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:02 pm

Will get more pics tomorrow for you and see what else he has, I'll
Try and find the toothpaste lid too

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Post by kenleyboy » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:10 pm

Thats a nice a bottle , I feel a tip dig coming on again !

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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:12 pm

kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:10 pm
Thats a nice a bottle , I feel a tip dig coming on again !
Seeing a canny bottle
Gets you back in the mood!
See you there
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Post by Steevo45 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:13 pm

It's amazing that this bottle came out in one piece. He found it doing drainage on a golf course took of the turf scrapped back the soil and there was a huge bottle dump, always said he must of broke 100s. found things like marmite pots, ink well pots, old stone hot water bottles, loads of ginger beer and milk of magnesium bottles as well a 1 or 2 of the blue poison bottles that always seem very collectable. I keep meaning to go detecting when he is digging ditches and things, he must of moved some very interesting artifacts over the years

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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:26 pm

Steevo45 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:13 pm
It's amazing that this bottle came out in one piece. He found it doing drainage on a golf course took of the turf scrapped back the soil and there was a huge bottle dump, always said he must of broke 100s. found things like marmite pots, ink well pots, old stone hot water bottles, loads of ginger beer and milk of magnesium bottles as well a 1 or 2 of the blue poison bottles that always seem very collectable. I keep meaning to go detecting when he is digging ditches and things, he must of moved some very interesting artifacts over the years
Its amazing the amount of golf courses on top of big rubbish dumps..
Got as soft spot for poison bottles!
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Post by kenleyboy » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:21 pm

Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:12 pm
kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:10 pm
Thats a nice a bottle , I feel a tip dig coming on again !
Seeing a canny bottle
Gets you back in the mood!
See you there
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I will bring a flask of soup , temperatures dropping rapidly .

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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:26 pm

kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:21 pm
Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:12 pm
kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:10 pm
Thats a nice a bottle , I feel a tip dig coming on again !
Seeing a canny bottle
Gets you back in the mood!
See you there
::g
I will bring a flask of soup , temperatures dropping rapidly .
A bears grease pot lid and a patent cobalt hybrid codd/hamilton bottle
Will keep you warm..
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Post by kenleyboy » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:37 pm

Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:26 pm
kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:21 pm
Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:12 pm

Seeing a canny bottle
Gets you back in the mood!
See you there
::g
I will bring a flask of soup , temperatures dropping rapidly .
A bears grease pot lid and a patent cobalt hybrid codd/hamilton bottle
Will keep you warm..
Too right and digging for them would get you toasty enough .

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Re: Victorian ?? Glenlivet bottle?

Post by stanslad » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:44 pm

Finding a hammered coin can rescue a poor days detecting,
Like finding a pot lid would rescue a poor days bottle digging,
Then the gold coin equivalent would sometimes pop up, like a coloured pot lid, blue lip cod, a blue coffin or skull shaped poison bottle,
Those were the days at the Oxford college tips.
Clint ::g

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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:45 pm

kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:37 pm
Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:26 pm
kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:21 pm

I will bring a flask of soup , temperatures dropping rapidly .
A bears grease pot lid and a patent cobalt hybrid codd/hamilton bottle
Will keep you warm..
Too right and digging for them would get you toasty enough .
To be fair I only ever dug 2 bears grease and I've seen hybrids at shows
Up here it's cream pots and ginger beers.
Usually used to get blank lids and milkof magnesia bottles!
I parted company with nearly all of my bottles and have regretted it ever since..
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Post by Lowland » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:47 pm

Steevo45 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:02 pm
Will get more pics tomorrow for you and see what else he has, I'll
Try and find the toothpaste lid too
Sound
Always nice to see..
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Post by kenleyboy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:12 am

Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:45 pm
kenleyboy wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:37 pm
Lowland wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:26 pm


A bears grease pot lid and a patent cobalt hybrid codd/hamilton bottle
Will keep you warm..
Too right and digging for them would get you toasty enough .
To be fair I only ever dug 2 bears grease and I've seen hybrids at shows
Up here it's cream pots and ginger beers.
Usually used to get blank lids and milkof magnesia bottles!
I parted company with nearly all of my bottles and have regretted it ever since..
I had a huge break from bottle digging and only recently got stuck into it again . The stuff we dug as youngsters was quality gear but the strange thing about it was we never really bothered to take it home . My old Mum would moan and groan about bringing home rubbish so we never bothered . The fun was finding the gear and I whince looking back at the stuff we just left lying about . Madness .
Got a great tip down here if you are ever in these parts , its huge , well dug but still some cracking finds .

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Post by Lowland » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:06 am

stanslad wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:44 pm
Finding a hammered coin can rescue a poor days detecting,
Like finding a pot lid would rescue a poor days bottle digging,
Then the gold coin equivalent would sometimes pop up, like a coloured pot lid, blue lip cod, a blue coffin or skull shaped poison bottle,
Those were the days at the Oxford college tips.
Clint ::g
Right on!
The hunt....
I hope you've still got the coloured lids
::g
A skull poison?! Only ever seen pictures
And
A Coffin poison-ruddy hell hens teeth!
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