New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

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New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by bob79 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:11 pm

Gary has posted a new video as part of his Deus challenge, two Deus user's on a Roman site go head to head, one a V2 user and one a V4.1 user.
All so 13"x11 coil v HF coil.

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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Junior » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:29 pm

Can u do the link please I can't find it on fool tube ::g

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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by oldartefact » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:33 pm

bob79 wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:11 pm
Gary has posted a new video as part of his Deus challenge, two Deus user's on a Roman site go head to head, one a V2 user and one a V4.1 user.
All so 13"x11 coil v HF coil.

Bob ::g
Not quite sure what anything other than a scientifically controlled experiment/test under lab conditions can tell us, but looking forward to seeing the vid none the less.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by bob79 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:36 pm

Junior wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:29 pm
Can u do the link please I can't find it on fool tube ::g
Google Xp Deus challenge, Junior.

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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by oldartefact » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:22 pm

A fantastic video ... two detectorists having a great day out on a Roman site, but little more to conclude other than both machines picked up targets. Not sure why the vid is called "XP Deus Challenge" because there was no challenge ... great site, great conditions, with both machines easily picking out obvious targets (sadly they didnt show us the junk that was dug).
All in all an enjoyable, well put together, and well edited video, but I didnt learn anything new.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Easylife » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:08 pm

Not watched it but if they just dug their own separate targets and did not even compare machines over the same iffy/ faint targets what's the point? On a Roman site it is more likely about target separation from the iron, so a no brainer. Sounds like just an XP promo. x;
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by oldartefact » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:19 pm

Easylife wrote:
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Not watched it but if they just dug their own separate targets and did not even compare machines over the same iffy/ faint targets what's the point? On a Roman site it is more likely about target separation from the iron, so a no brainer. Sounds like just an XP promo. x;
Yes a bit of a sales vid ... but it was more about Deus than pitching different models against each other. I liked the bit where one of the chaps said "I moved to the Deus because my mate was finding more than me". But still a watchable vid, think that one of the persons in the vid did a vid on dousing.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Easylife » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:28 pm

oldartefact wrote:
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Think that one of the persons in the vid did a vid on dowsing.
Maybe they originally did a vid of dowser vs Deus, but was no competition so this? x; =))
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Junior » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:15 am

Pity they did only 1 comparison right at the end....I thought they were going to do a head to head which I think would of been better...it would of been good to see if the 9" hf would of got all the targets the 13 on v2 woz getting :D

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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:35 am

That’s the one we were shown at the skills school in January. Good video. Here’s the link for those of you who are interested in have a shufty

Will it be enough to tempt Liam from v2 though? =))
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Post by Easylife » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:21 pm

Just watched it - so that wasn't staged then. =)) =))
Hardly a level playing field.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Mancave-man » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:19 pm

Just watched the Deus 'Challenge' video and have to say that if you are a Deus user it was quite informative. It's not aimed at other type machine users.

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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Copperballs1 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:34 pm

This the link:-


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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by oldartefact » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:14 pm

Easylife wrote:
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Just watched it - so that wasn't staged then. =)) =))
Hardly a level playing field.
In all fairness ... it was stated to be a Roman site, but no mention that they then edited out much of the junk!! Fact is that if one only sees the good finds ... and not the junk, then one is unable to form any opinion whatsoever ... other than they are showing us what they think we want to see. Hey ho, at least we have this forum where the record can be set straight!!! OooO OooO OooO OooO
Chap says that they are going to compare signals and targets ... not sure what that means exactly ... but as the vid pans out there was a significant lack of comparison... but loved all the blarney.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Easylife » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:43 pm

It seemed more of a small coil, higher frequency and faster response VS the opposite, rather than comparing software versions. Why not have the V2 in 18khz with a 9" coil? It just demonstrated that a larger coil has inferior target separation, and sounded like it was on a low reactivity setting also, maybe the worst set up they could go for on V2 for that site. Ok, they stated which program V4.1 was using but not what program or settings V2 was using? And where was the supposed air test of the last target? Hardly anything to base a purchase decision on. :))
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by oldartefact » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 pm

Easylife wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:43 pm
It seemed more of a small coil, higher frequency and faster response VS the opposite, rather than comparing software versions. Why not have the V2 in 18khz with a 9" coil? It just demonstrated that a larger coil has inferior target separation, and sounded like it was on a low reactivity setting also, maybe the worst set up they could go for on V2 for that site. Ok, they stated which program V4.1 was using but not what program or settings V2 was using? And where was the supposed air test of the last target? Hardly anything to base a purchase decision on. :))
Excellent points ... its like when the Blue car and the red car had a race... the blue car wins ... hence all blue cars are better than red cars!!! The thing is with these flimsy comparisons is that the authors may think that all and sundry are of a kind... ie. without the necessary strength of synapse to make commonsense connections ... and that is precisely why the occult, paranormal, UFO, conspiracy theory, and dowsing etc etc etc have such a big following ... they just dont have sufficient Acetylcholinesterase to allow their grey matter to kick in..
Sadly there is an inverse correlation ... those with the lowest levels of acetylcholinestarase are most likely to look down upon those with the highest levels, and that is why hooliganism, vandaalism, and every other type of ism ... always wins out!!! hey ho.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:37 pm

In my head this is a comparison aimed at the user using the older coil and the older software, to show what you could gain from the latest coil and software (as at the time this was filmed).

It isn’t going to give a massive difference on every signal and in every set of conditions but this video does demonstrate that higher frequencies, with the software to allow it to function, will highlight signals that the older lower frequency coils (and the old software) won’t.

You can agree, or not. I’ve found the hf coil on Roman sites finds loads more. It isn’t as much if an advantage on some other sites. Horses for courses and all that.
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Re: New Deus Skills School video:- V2 v V4.1.

Post by Kefyn » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:33 pm

Very disappointing for a Gary video. Watch closely, I spotted at least two 'pre cut' holes on the video. Not suggesting the finds were planted,but maybe a peek had already been had. 👎

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