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What's the most stable V4.*** sortware at the moment?

Post by Bambamsdadda » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:56 pm

My machine will be arriving tomorrow and the first thing I want to do is update it to the best sortware available an I need V4 because I have the MI-6 coming too.

So I have heard there has been some bug fixes from the original V4 software so was wondering what people have been using without issue??


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Re: What's the most stable V4.*** sortware at the moment?

Post by JBM » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:23 pm

BETA 2 seems OK.

There are a few folks using it

Should be out officially very soon. ::g

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Re: What's the most stable V4.*** sortware at the moment?

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:36 pm

V4 is very stable. Not sure where you'd heard it wasn't ?
GMP (programme 2)is a standard most deus uses go to first. Certainly on pasture and sites with low iron infestation. And a great 'get to know your detector' programme. It gets deep signals and good signals are strong and loud.
Fast (programme 3)is great for Roman sites to winkle out good finds amongst the inevitable iron nails. It has good iron discrimination and super fast recovery between signals.
Hot is a lovely programme that makes you go slow. It's full tones so you need to really concentrate but it picks up the tiniest things and is really great to use.
I've not used Deep but others report it does offer further depth and good for spotting small finds.

Really your choice of programme depends on your previous experience and your permissions. I'd start and stick with GMP for a while (I did about 30 hours on it before I tried anything else but I'm a novice detectorist).

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Re: What's the most stable V4.*** sortware at the moment?

Post by Tomo » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:38 pm

Beta 2 working fine here
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Re: What's the most stable V4.*** sortware at the moment?

Post by Mud Max » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:58 pm

Bambamsdadda wrote:
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My machine will be arriving tomorrow and the first thing I want to do is update it to the best sortware available an I need V4 because I have the MI-6 coming too.

So I have heard there has been some bug fixes from the original V4 software so was wondering what people have been using without issue??
Your machine should come loaded with V4 if you have bought it new. I agree with previous comment stick with Prog 2 for a few hunts, you do not need to fiddle with it to achieve great performance. Even Gary from XP has said that the preset programmes can be the best option on some land so it always depends on sites and GMP is a great all rounder.

When your ready to experiment, watch the XP videos about reactivity. The Deus automatically changes the reactivity speed for different programmes, because they are all options for different site conditions, but you need to correlate your swing speed to get the best sound on the signals. Gary explains it well on the video.
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Re: What's the most stable V4.*** sortware at the moment?

Post by Jungle » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:38 pm

Tomo wrote:
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Beta 2 working fine here
Is beta 2 and version 4.1 the same? It's taking a long time for an official 4.x release to improve the connectivity issue with pinpointer.
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Post by Fisher1266X » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:45 pm

Jungle wrote:
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Tomo wrote:
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Beta 2 working fine here
Is beta 2 and version 4.1 the same? It's taking a long time for an official 4.x release to improve the connectivity issue with pinpointer.
That's what I thought, it looks to be exactly the same beta version :D ;)
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Post by JBM » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:48 pm

4.1 and the original BETA is not the same as BETA2.

I would imagine that BETA 2 will be the final release any day now as Gary and other users are pleased with it.

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Post by Bambamsdadda » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:42 am

Cheers for the input folks.
I been watching "Gary's" videos for a while now and trying to learn the basics. I've just spent around a year with a makro racer, it's a fantastic machine that I've had some great finds with. Towards the end of my time with it I turned off the discrimination so I could hear all the iron, (on my permission that's A LOT!) to sort of train my ear ready for "winkling" out signals on the deus.
Is GMP Gary's program?
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:51 am

Bambamsdadda wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:42 am
Cheers for the input folks.
I been watching "Gary's" videos for a while now and trying to learn the basics. I've just spent around a year with a makro racer, it's a fantastic machine that I've had some great finds with. Towards the end of my time with it I turned off the discrimination so I could hear all the iron, (on my permission that's A LOT!) to sort of train my ear ready for "winkling" out signals on the deus.
Is GMP Gary's program?
No, but Hot is Gary's programme that was so popular they made it official :D

GMP stands for gold max power which is a classic detector that is still very well loved. It's a really good machine. This is the deus version of that machine's special abilities. It must be a good machine as this programme is superb ::g
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Post by Chilgrove » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:50 am

Yesterday in the Perthshire fields I was mainly using V4 "deep". It is my favourite program and seems to winkle out small finds from considerable depth. I was also on occasion using "hot" but for me it is a program you really have to concentrate on, as mentioned above. Having said that it did work yesterday, finding a nice wee military badge at about 7".

My issue with V4 is still that the headphones (backphones) always turn off after 5 hours use. I never had that with previous software versions. Yesterday they even turned off at the same time as giving a good signal. Nigel said all previous versions were designed to do this (I did not know that) and I am sure he is correct. However I think he assumed I was leaving my machine aside for 5 hours then complaining about the backphones switching off. I agree that is a good idea in the interests of battery management but they should not be switching off when using the detector and getting a signal every few seconds. Apart from that, great !

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Post by Nigel at regtons » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:50 pm

The battery saver kicks in if you don't press any buttons, electronics can't discriminate between a machine picking up targets & being joggled around in the boot of a car so they have to go by human intervention ie pressing any button.

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Post by Mud Max » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:12 pm

Thanks Nigel, sounds a bit like a TV remote. It doesn't know your watching the TV and attempts to go into standby.
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Post by MarkSussex » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:21 pm

I think If anyone is recommending Beta 1 and Beta 2 then they should at least mention that If anything happens to your remote when using it, your warranty is null and void ?
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Post by Jungle » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 pm

MarkSussex wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:21 pm
I think If anyone is recommending Beta 1 and Beta 2 then they should at least mention that If anything happens to your remote when using it, your warranty is null and void ?
Hence my reluctance to go with anything other than official release.
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Post by Easylife » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:03 am

Nigel at regtons wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:50 pm
The battery saver kicks in if you don't press any buttons, electronics can't discriminate between a machine picking up targets & being joggled around in the boot of a car so they have to go by human intervention ie pressing any button.
I can relate to that now. In the early days my Deus once switched off. But now I make regular adjustments to suit conditions and it has never happened again in V4. ::g
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Post by Bambamsdadda » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:50 am

In my excitement I went straight out with it last night in v3.2. I have a lot to learn!!!
Last night I updated all the kit and paired the MI-6 pointer. Can't wait to get out tonight for an hour or so.
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Post by Chilgrove » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:22 pm

Thanks Nigel for your reply. I can only reiterate that this never happened with any of my previous software versions and also that I had been pressing buttons all day long.

For example, pin pointing, changing from deep to hot and GMP. Also changing from manual to tracking GB. It may well be down to me as I am not at my best when downloading software over the internet. I should probably bite the bullet and get my wife or one of my kids to supervise what I am doing during a download then uninstall and try again.

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Post by JBM » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:02 pm

Jungle wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 pm
MarkSussex wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:21 pm
I think If anyone is recommending Beta 1 and Beta 2 then they should at least mention that If anything happens to your remote when using it, your warranty is null and void ?
Hence my reluctance to go with anything other than official release.
If you go to Garys detecting you will see his mail and invite to try these settings.

In the last 8 years using a Deus I have never known Alain to let down his team professional or amateur.

It makes good sense to let his customers have an input.

I dont think that you will have long to wait now.

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Post by targets » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:15 pm

saw a mention on another forum about V4 using up more power.. so what is exactly is the power consumption of the various versions ??if indeed it is using up more power as stated
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Post by JBM » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:36 pm

I only do 4 hours sessions these days.

I can get 2 trips out without a problem, whether i could still have power for a 3rd Iam not sure.

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Post by Easylife » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:13 pm

targets wrote:
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saw a mention on another forum about V4 using up more power.. so what is exactly is the power consumption of the various versions ??if indeed it is using up more power as stated
Power consumption in hours is stated in the downloadable manuals for different software versions. Under normal use you probably would not notice any difference if you charge between major hunts.
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Post by JBM » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:52 am

Just a thought the battery pod powering the H/F coils is quite large and housed in the bottom stem.

The battery life in the H/F coil is between 20 and 28 hours depending on the frequency being used.

20 hours at 15.7 kHz 27 hours at 30 kHz 28 hours at 55-80 kHz.

The older standard coils is only 15 hours.

Hope this helps.

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Post by solmer » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:34 pm

Hi !

Past weekend I was testing the 4.2 beta and I've noticed a big battery drain....I was detecting with the GM Power....Could be a bug or could be a problem with my charger...Anyway I'm going back to 4.0

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Post by Jungle » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:20 pm

solmer wrote:
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Hi !

Past weekend I was testing the 4.2 beta and I've noticed a big battery drain....I was detecting with the GM Power....Could be a bug or could be a problem with my charger...Anyway I'm going back to 4.0
Have you fed back your findings to XP? Don't assume one of the paid(?) testers has had the same issue.

Thanks for update, I was waiting for an official 4.1 which has been "any day now" for months, but if they have moved to testing 4.2, an official release is still some time away.
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Post by JBM » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:09 pm

4.2 is OK, but there is still a small delay when switching over to the MI-6 probe and returning to the H/F coil.

Its no real problem, but just not quite perfect.

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Post by solmer » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:07 pm

Jungle wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:20 pm
solmer wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:34 pm
Hi !

Past weekend I was testing the 4.2 beta and I've noticed a big battery drain....I was detecting with the GM Power....Could be a bug or could be a problem with my charger...Anyway I'm going back to 4.0
Have you fed back your findings to XP? Don't assume one of the paid(?) testers has had the same issue.

Thanks for update, I was waiting for an official 4.1 which has been "any day now" for months, but if they have moved to testing 4.2, an official release is still some time away.
Hi, yes I've wrote to Alain about the problem....anoter users are suffering the same problem...even with anohter types of coils...until new stable release.. rolling back to first 4 version

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Post by Jungle » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:42 am

My wife asked me what did I want for xmas, I said version 4.1, she said "no I mean this xmas."
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Post by Easylife » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:59 am

Jungle wrote:
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My wife asked me what did I want for xmas, I said version 4.1, she said "no I mean this xmas."
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Post by Jungle » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:35 am

Is 4.1 shipping on new units?
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