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Post by redwulf500 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:40 pm

hi out today with the gmp & 11 inch coil , started snagging on the stubble field i was searching , could not believer its worn through as i only put it on dec 18th 2013. last year went through 3 of them, they are utter crap and at 18.95 delivered not that cheap. anyways i have ordered yet another from regtons and i am thinking of coating it with some fiberglass resin or similar ? , to make it last more than a month.any thoughts on this ..Red.
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Post by Fusion » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:00 pm

Maybe try and make your own smooth-bottomed one (ie. no cutouts), out of ABS or similar sheet, you could maybe salvage some raw material from a junk PC case, or one of those large plastic stacking storage boxes. Or use polypropylene sheet, again, many of those storage boxes are pp. Do you have recycling boxes for paper/glass etc? Maybe there's a spare lid somewhere? Ty-raps may be good enough to fix it in place.
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Post by redwulf500 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:06 pm

Fusion wrote:Maybe try and make your own smooth-bottomed one (ie. no cutouts), out of ABS or similar sheet, you could maybe salvage some raw material from a junk PC case, or one of those large plastic stacking storage boxes. Or use polypropylene sheet, again, many of those storage boxes are pp. Do you have recycling boxes for paper/glass etc? Maybe there's a spare lid somewhere? Ty-raps may be good enough to fix it in place.
hi thanks for your ideas , they always wear out along the front edge, sort of on the bottom of the L shape, i am going to try coating this section in fibreglass resin when i get the new cover . thanks again yours Red...ps its a shame no one makes the covers from something tougher..

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Post by Nailman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:07 pm

I run a GMP with the 13 extreme coil so far so good, I also have a Adventis 2 with 11 inch coil same story had to replace within 3 months, and yes they are expensive ,':(
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Post by daytrader12 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:21 pm

Have you really worn one out in less than a month ... blimey.

I would suggest taking the old cover that's worn and carefully cutting the flat base off, from the lip, as its half split already that should not be too difficult.
When you get the new cover, glue the salvaged base to the the bottom of the new cover using araldite epoxy adhesive .
When you spread the adhesive on, ensure there is an even covering right up to the edges. When you press this onto the bottom of the new cover the adhesive should squeeze out sealing the join and once it cures, give a bit more protection to the edges where the wear is happening.

I've not done it before its just what I would try if it was me!
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Post by redwulf500 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:19 am

daytrader12 wrote:Have you really worn one out in less than a month ... blimey.

I would suggest taking the old cover that's worn and carefully cutting the flat base off, from the lip, as its half split already that should not be too difficult.
When you get the new cover, glue the salvaged base to the the bottom of the new cover using araldite epoxy adhesive .
When you spread the adhesive on, ensure there is an even covering right up to the edges. When you press this onto the bottom of the new cover the adhesive should squeeze out sealing the join and once it cures, give a bit more protection to the edges where the wear is happening.

I've not done it before its just what I would try if it was me!
hi thanks for your idea , i might give it a try . yours Red..

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Post by shoveller » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:51 am

Sounds a bit naff but maybe run a ring of black gaffa tape around the edge where its split in that picture to give it a bit more protection.

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Post by principia » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:16 pm

Is this not a warranty issue, I mean such a coil cover should a least held much more than a few weeks.?
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Post by Dave8472 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:22 pm

I have seen a few posts from other makes as well, think some of the beach guy's are having the same issue with the CTX covers. I have never worn out a cover myself, perhaps I use it further from the ground. Interested to see what you guy's can come up with ::g

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Post by Oldest Swinger » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:45 pm

I agree with Dave in all my years (last 10 using XP machines) I have never worn a cover out. I suspect you are swinging just a fraction too close to the ground. I would certainly try shortening your stem a little or if not possible then change your stance so you get as low as possible without actually catching the ground. You also suggest they are going on front edge wich could also suggest you have the coil sloped forward just a little (a technique I actually use on long hard stubble) try making sure you're coil is flat in future

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Post by Maximuswarks » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:14 pm

i am sure that coil covers are covered under warranty if they are faulty, that is a hell of a split in yours ;;z i use my Deus a minimum of twice a week and have had it over 18 months and i am still on the same cover :-/ what on earth do you do with it to get it that bad ? you must have extremely hard stubble
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Post by Dave8472 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:03 pm

Just an idea, I wonder if you could wrap some Spiroband around it, I only have small stuff here to show you, but you can see the idea, it is cheap and easy to replace, although it will hold the dirt in ? It comes from Electrical wholesalers . It wouldn't fit over the joining bits but may offer some protection.

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Post by redwulf500 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:58 pm

Oldest Swinger wrote:I agree with Dave in all my years (last 10 using XP machines) I have never worn a cover out. I suspect you are swinging just a fraction too close to the ground. I would certainly try shortening your stem a little or if not possible then change your stance so you get as low as possible without actually catching the ground. You also suggest they are going on front edge wich could also suggest you have the coil sloped forward just a little (a technique I actually use on long hard stubble) try making sure you're coil is flat in future

Hope this may be of help. Paul
hi i do swing the coil low to the ground knocking the stubble down and skimming over the grassy bits and have done for 25 years ,and i go out about 3 times a week for about 3 hours a time or so, i have noticed a lot of soil/sand stuck to the stubble stalks which maybe will acts like sandpaper on the plastic. it would be a waste of time swinging higher than the stubble . i also contacted the shop i bought the coil cover from and they have asked me to return it with the receipt, but i have already thrown it away .so thats that but i am going to try the fiberglass resin and see what happens. thanks for your ideas and tips yours Red

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Post by sweepstick47 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:03 pm

redwulf500 wrote:hi out today with the gmp & 11 inch coil , started snagging on the stubble field i was searching , could not believer its worn through as i only put it on dec 18th 2013. last year went through 3 of them, they are utter crap and at 18.95 delivered not that cheap. anyways i have ordered yet another from regtons and i am thinking of coating it with some fiberglass resin or similar ? , to make it last more than a month.any thoughts on this ..Red.
Hi Red, I think, under the circumstances, you have a valid case to complain to the manufacturer, as the product would seem to be 'Unfit for the purpose for which it was intended'. I would therefore recommend following it up by letter. The fact that you are 'unable to locate the original receipt' may in fact strengthen your case as you wish to urgently bring the matter to their attention by 'voicing your concerns'. Hope you get sorted mate. All the best ::g ::g
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Post by Blackbeard » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:11 pm

Being a user of both Minelab and XP machines, I have to say that the XP coil covers are more flimsy and thinner that the Minelab coil covers... I have had to replace my Deus 9" coil cover once but it is the older magnet V.1 type and was purchased second hand...
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Post by Tomo » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:01 am

I was getting 12 weeks out of my ctx cover and was told that if it was only lasting that long then I was doing it right, slow and low. It does take some stick when you thing about it each session but do agree they are expensive for what they are.
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Post by geoman » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:58 am

Not worn one out yet as i tend to search silty soils, but an hour or tow on a flinty gravel field and you could see the wear on the leading edge when i washed the mud off the coil. AS with all detector manufacturers they need you to break them or wear bits out to continue making money. The worst offender i recall in my opinion was the Tesoro spider coils - i went through three in a little over three years all of them going down just out of warranty so i soon got rid of that detector.

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Post by Biglewey » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:03 pm

It may be the photo but it looks like the cover has split rather than worn as in worn thin and then through.

I have Garretts and not had the same problem but the covers are so ****** tight that taking it off or putting it on I am in fear of breaking the coil.

Just a thought - is the cover so tight that its splitting itself..??
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Post by alfaowner » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:44 pm

I've just started using the deus and am surprised how easily they come of ... I think the notch helps ... The coil on my old machine was a lot tighter ::g

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Post by oldmasbroboy » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:28 pm

Lets remember what its job is...Scuff cover...a coil protector. not cheap I Know...what would the coil be like without one, or should someone invent a coil cover protector cover =P~ =P~
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Post by Blackbeard » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:37 pm

oldmasbroboy wrote:Lets remember what its job is...Scuff cover...a coil protector. not cheap I Know...what would the coil be like without one
Fair point oldmasbroboy.... ::g
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Post by redwulf500 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:33 pm

Another one bites the dust today... ;;z

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Post by Maximuswarks » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:36 pm

redwulf500 wrote:Another one bites the dust today... ;;z
Did you get the other one sorted on Warranty Red ? your ground must be like sand paper ;;z
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Post by redwulf500 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:41 pm

Hi no i lost the reciept.this one lasted about 9 weeks and i coated it in fiberglass resin.which was a waste of time. Ordered another today...

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Post by liamnolan » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:55 am

I am arranging for a 3-D Printer in Ireland to produce small parts for my business and its amazing how it is all done. I am sure they could produce a clone of any coil cover (or anything else) and the materials could be decided in advance. Costs are not that huge, looks like my small plastic spacers will cost me around €4.00 each and so a coil cover would not be a lot more. Choosing the material would be the real benefit. As in all walks of life, manufacturers do not want to invent the everlasting light bulb. They want things to break and to be able to keep on selling replacements ;;z
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