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Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by ICENI » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:54 pm

Looking at buying a Garmin eTrex 20x at a reasonable price £132 + delivery ( brand new ) , any thoughts on this model for plotting finds would be much appreciated


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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Junior » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:29 pm

A post a few weeks ago about above. Might b some details there under accessories - gps. I had a early model and that woz in default set up and woz the wrong setting for the FLO officer doooo

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by f8met » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:14 pm

Great items. I used to have a 10 but upgraded to a 30 but they are basically the same. I turn on when I start, when I find something of interest I set it as a waypoint with a brief description of what it is in the waypoint info and then carry on detecting. You can then download to your computer and plot onto google earth.

Mud and water proof, batteries last for ages and I have it on a cord around my neck. I would not advise the touch screen ones for detecting for obvious reasons.

You can pick up a 10 for around £80-90, a 20 for around £130 and the 30 for £150-180, less secondhand of course on our favourite auction site.

Just be aware that it seems quite hard to delete all data off them if you sell it on. Even after a factory reset I still have info on the sandy climate mine went to.
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by ICENI » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:29 am

Thanks for the replies .
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Buriedbytime&dust » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:55 am

The supplied maps are not good, and the card to add decent ones isn't cheap. Other than that, it's a very good bit of kit ::g

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by ICENI » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:16 pm

A little help is needed please , set up my Garmin in base camp trying to download track and waypoints from the weekend to google earth which is down loaded and running in the back ground , i keep getting a message please launch and try again
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:46 pm

Not sure if quite works the same as my Etrex h and Mapsource. I just import data to mapsource then select "view in google earth", without it being open first.
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Steve_T » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:06 pm

Have look here, I posted a setup guide on second page near the end

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Should be similar for the 30

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Steve_T » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:45 pm

I have the same issue from way back, here is what you need to do to get it to Google earth

Close Google Earth

In BaseCamp

Select List (your saved data file)
Select “File” “Export” then you will see the list you selected, click on it

A window will open, in the “Save as type” box select the file with extension (*.Kml)
Then Save, the window will close

Close Google Earth if it’s open

Go to Windows Explorer
OS (C:)
Users
Your Name
AppData
LocalLow
Google
GoogleEarth

You should then se the list you saved with the file extension .Kml

Double click and Google Earth will open

The file will be in the Temporary Places at the bottom, if you want to save it move it up into My Places or close the programme and say Yes to save to my places

Next time you open GE it should be there in My Places

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by ICENI » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:57 pm

Great thanks for all the help , i am now up and running Saturdays and Thursdays tracks and finds saved in Google Earth ::g
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:50 pm

I've just upgraded from an Etrex H to the Etrex 20x today so just sussing it out. Are tracks automatically saved or do you have to save them manually each time?
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Dave8472 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:21 pm

Easylife wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:50 pm
I've just upgraded from an Etrex H to the Etrex 20x today so just sussing it out. Are tracks automatically saved or do you have to save them manually each time?
They are automatically saved, one tip is to clear the memory on site or when you switch it on it will start the track from where it was last switched on, ie at home lol. Although the trips can easily be edited in Basecamp on a PC.

EDIT, I save the track on site before going home to stop it doing the reverse when home ::g

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:57 pm

Looks like the Etrex 20x will be just the job as it can show current and saved tracks together. I switched on "GPS & GLONASS" and increased the plotting interval to "most often" for hopefully more accurate track plotting. Also set datum to "British Grid" for recording find spots. Any other tips?
The built in TopoActive map seems reasonable, but is there a map which shows field boundaries at all?
Just need to figure out how to get the tracks saved in Google Earth onto it, any ideas?
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Dave8472 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:04 pm

The setting are all good you have done, don’t forget it only has so much memory so storing lots of tracks and positions will fill it up quick.

Personally I don’t leave my data in it, I export all to Google Earth and use there. That leads on to the maps, Garmin ones are pants and cost a fortune. If handled from GE, all is free, including old maps etc. There are many other things that GE can do that Basecamp can’t.

If you do export files try and do them as KML rather than KMZ or GPS, as these work with just about any software. I did find the track points annoying in Basecamp and delete them all when importing in to GE and this helps keeping that running fast. Because I have years worth of data it can soon build up by the way.

PS EDIT, I only have the 10 model as I saw how expensive those maps were.

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:25 pm

I just happened to have a spare 64GB memory card so used a program to format it to FAT32 for storing data on the Etrex 20x.

One tip I read which if true may be little known to many owners, is that it gets the best satellite reception when in a horizontal position. So guess this could affect tracking accuracy? x;
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by f8met » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:50 pm

I have my 30 on a cord around my neck. When I mark a way point it is horizontal and besides there is a margin of error in the accuracy anyway and the FLOs are happy with 8 or 10 figure reference.

One test you can do is to mark a way point to a fixed location and go back to it on another visit and see how close you are.
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Dave8472 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:56 am

I have mine mounted on the detector
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:34 am

Wow Dave your kit is clean, and you even put a shower cap on the coil. ::g
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by f8met » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:37 pm

Sunny weather detectorist =)) Mine is never that clean and is usually caked in mud.

I have thought about mounting the etrex on the detector but I am not sure what the swinging around would do to the accuracy.
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Dave8472 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:04 pm

I keep all my gear clean :D the cap stops the mud spreading until I get home.

I found the GPS to be more accurate than having the unit in my pocket, problem with these models is the nav button is easily knocked.

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:49 am

Here's a bit of an initial review of the Etrex 20x. I'm still sussing it out and have only actually taken it out on site once due to the dry spell but have played about with GE files (converted to gpx) to Basecamp to GPS to Basecamp which is no problem and Basecamp seems a great editor.
Having to reset the Etrex each time is an unnecessary pain to stop it from joining the previous track (which may be just a switch on at home) to the current track, my old Etrex H never did that, so it seems like a step backwards.
The user guide is not very helpful or clear, but, Setup - Reset - Clear track & trip data, initially gives the impression that it will delete all un-archived tracks but experimentation shows that it just actually clears the current track and resets trip data and does not delete any other tracks at all. Or just, Track manager - Current track - Clear current track, if you wish to accumulate trip data.
If storing data on a memory card then my initial finding is that it can take quite a while to load and also slows the device down when map scrolling as it has to re-read it. So it seem that it's just best to load the minimal data that you need for each site rather than your entire library. Also it's a pain to have to select each individual track to "show on map" rather than being able to just select all in one command. Just wondering if map scrolling would even be possible at all with close to 32GB of data in an area "shown on map" on the card? But, it may just be due to my memory card which is a 64GB class 10, the only one that I had spare.
This may sound like a moan but I actually like the Etrex 20x quite a lot and as long as I'm aware of any limitations I can work around them. It's great to be able to see previous searched tracks and current at the same time. It seems that the best way is to just keep it simple and load minimal data from Basecamp as you need it for each site.
I mainly record on GE as the satellite imaginary is easy to relate to, also good for overlaying historical maps and features. One downside is that Basecamp just chucks all data into one big list.
Please feel free to correct me at all, any other advise is most welcome.
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Steve_T » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:58 am

Easylife wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:49 am
This may sound like a moan but I actually like the EtrexOne downside is that Basecamp just chucks all data into one big list.
Please feel free to correct me at all, any other advise is most welcome.
If you mean Basecamp on the PC it's possible to create new list, rename and move data to that, single trips are then saved individually, also you can create new folders and rename them so you can store the saved renamed lists in the saved renamed folders, keeps it all nice and tidy and easy to find or review saved trips

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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:07 pm

My Etrex first saves data to GPX format before connecting to Basecamp but several times it has got stuck at 98%. Is there a preferred method? Should the device be switched on or off when connecting? x;
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by f8met » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:23 pm

It can be off. I actually go into the folders through internet explorer and back up everything in a new folder on my PC before doing anything with the data.
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:07 pm

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My Etrex first saves data to GPX format before connecting to Basecamp but several times it has got stuck at 98%. x;
Today it would not even get past 38% but I think I found the problem - my 64GB SD card, it had previously worked fine until now and was all good again when I removed it. I figured that I don't even need a card in it anyway as the remaining free 318mb of internal memory will hold ample data so will just run it like that - simples! :D ::g
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Re: Garmin eTrex 20x

Post by Easylife » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:03 am

Update for the techies:
I've got more familiar with the ways of my Etrex 20x but may wish to use it in a somewhat different manner to some. On my permissions I record all my tracks and any older finds on the device and later back it up in Basecamp. From new it only has about 310mb of spare memory left out of 4GB after the pre installed maps, but that is still really plenty, so no real need for an additional memory card, though it's happy to take up to 32GB extra.
I'd saved many historical field boundary lines as tracks in a separate colour to show for reference on the device in addition to all of my actual tracks on the GPS but had just exceeded it's designed capacity of showing 200 tracks when I noticed that some were no longer showing in Basecamp.
My device was also now taking over 90 seconds to load and start up, which was quite a drag, but once up and running it worked fine, but I needed to find a better solution for my needs.
A way round this congestion is to create and load a transparent image file of your previous tracks onto the GPS to show just like a map. A far smaller file which now loads in about 17 seconds rather than the previous 90 or so. When it gets full again I'll just create another transparent track image to overlay, and so on. Waypoints are stored quite separately so can be edited individually whenever.
When on my permissions I like to actually see where I haven't been rather than just guessing where I have. It makes for a more efficient method of searching without going over previously searched ground bearing in mind that the accuracy is only good to about 3 metres depending upon the clouds that day.
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