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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Nexus » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:30 pm

Mega B wrote:@Nexus,Georgi,is it just the MP model that has been updated or can the MK11 perform the same,as you are aware i have the SE version which is deeper enough for most situations and deeper than my TDI Pro.

Are you still using the same UK agent as CR had been selling machines off ??
Only the MP model, has been upgraded. The fact is that the MkII with the dual 9" coil is still more sensitive in air than the MP, but the resonant tuned detectors could never get this deep in the ground unless much larger coils are used.
The resonant tuned detectors needed at least dual 20" coil to get a good signal from a small hoard of coins at 24" in the ground, where the MP is doing easy 32" in soil on the same pot with only 13"DD coil.
I suspect a few will argue this statement, but it is an engineering fact.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Mega B » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:56 pm

@Nexus,Georgi,any idea when the new MP machines will be available here in the UK,i am also looking for a 13'' and 7'' coils for the detector and also a price please.Many thanks

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Filternozzle » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:19 pm

Mega B wrote:@Nexus,Georgi,any idea when the new MP machines will be available here in the UK,i am also looking for a 13'' and 7'' coils for the detector and also a price please.Many thanks
Try the UK agent for your requirements Ric: UK agent: Worldwidedetectors.com
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Mega B » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:25 pm

Filternozzle wrote:
Mega B wrote:@Nexus,Georgi,any idea when the new MP machines will be available here in the UK,i am also looking for a 13'' and 7'' coils for the detector and also a price please.Many thanks
Try the UK agent for your requirements Ric: UK agent: Worldwidedetectors.com
Hi Richard,thanks for that info,Georgi has been back with the same information and a price,many thanks for that.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Nexus » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:43 pm

Mega B wrote:@Nexus,Georgi,any idea when the new MP machines will be available here in the UK,i am also looking for a 13'' and 7'' coils for the detector and also a price please.Many thanks

The Nexus range will not be available from the shelf anymore. Instead as it use to be in the past we are going to manufacture detectors only to customers order.
This goes for dealers as well.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Mega B » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:27 pm

@Filternozzle,can you check your messages please mate ::g

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Filternozzle » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:46 pm

Mega B wrote:@Filternozzle,can you check your messages please mate ::g
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Re: Nexus Standard MP

Post by Filternozzle » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:26 am

raverill wrote:I've got one of the new upgraded MP's on order and can't wait to get delivery and put the new machine through its paces on my permission...the improvements and performance that Nexus has posted sound mighty impressive..looking forward to it
So how does the new MP compare with the previous MP model for depth and discrimination? And what differences if any, have you noticed in detecting in the field between the two machines?

We are aware the new MP has a larger coil (13") than your original MP which uses a 10" coil. Did you swap the coils over at any point for a true comparison?

We are looking forward to your comments.
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Re: Nexus Standard MP

Post by Nexus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:58 am

Filternozzle wrote:
raverill wrote:I've got one of the new upgraded MP's on order and can't wait to get delivery and put the new machine through its paces on my permission...the improvements and performance that Nexus has posted sound mighty impressive..looking forward to it
So how does the new MP compare with the previous MP model for depth and discrimination? And what differences if any, have you noticed in detecting in the field between the two machines?

We are aware the new MP has a larger coil (13") than your original MP which uses a 10" coil. Did you swap the coils over at any point for a true comparison?

We are looking forward to your comments.

The new MP is considerably more stable on electric interference.
The new MP is also has more sensitivity and at the same time no chatter what so ever even at maximum sensitivity. At maximum sensitivity the new MP can detect a Vicky penny at 22-24" in air with a whisper signal. It can also detect Edward III hammered silver coin 18 by 19 mm at 14-15" in air with a whisper signal and very good signal at 12" in air.

These results may be obtainable with the first MP version and 13"DD coil, but the presence of some chatter at high sensitivity levels will likely obscure the most difficult targets.

The new MP is focused completely to the deepest targets and their accurate discrimination.
The first version of MP is more of a allrounder meant to satisfy wider audience with interest to general detecting.
Both versions will be very similar on heavy mineral conditions.

When the two versions are compared side by side with 13"DD coils few points are obvious;
- the new MP is more sensitive
- the new MP is completely smooth in the Threshold
- the older MP has more linear response to targets, which means the signal strength will increase in a linear fashion with targets getting closer, so the sound level will raise gradually from quite to loud as targets get closer to the coil.
- the new MP has more logarithmic audio response that brings it closer to the way most other detectors work. This means that the change from quite audio signals to louder signals will occur much faster with change of distance. So with the new MP deeper targets will sound louder, which makes it easier to use for finding the deep stuff.

The new MP does not have Turbo Audio mode anymore, so the toggle switch beneath the control box is only two way, where on the old version is three way.

The Sensitivity control of the new MP is not focused on significant increase of depth figures. Instead it is focused on the loudness of target signals. The difference from min to max sensitivity to a Vicky Penny with the new MP will be about 2", but the deep signals are much louder at max. sensitivity.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Mega B » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:18 am

@Nexus,thanks for explaining what the difference between the 2 machines,i have a couple of question as well ??

Can a new pre September machine machine be upgraded to the latest spec and if so how much ?? and also are the coils inter-changeable between the 2 models,ie will a 13'' coil that was bought say today fit on the pre modification machines.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by redwulf500 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:14 pm

Hi how much is a new mp .sent to the uk...red

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Nexus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:56 pm

Mega B wrote:@Nexus,thanks for explaining what the difference between the 2 machines,i have a couple of question as well ??

Can a new pre September machine machine be upgraded to the latest spec and if so how much ?? and also are the coils inter-changeable between the 2 models,ie will a 13'' coil that was bought say today fit on the pre modification machines.

Upgrading the first version of MP to the new is unfortunately more complicated than simply manufacturing a new control board. It can be done, but I do not have a price point for such work at the moment.

The search coils are the same for both versions.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Nexus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:58 pm

redwulf500 wrote:Hi how much is a new mp .sent to the uk...red
New MP retails at 1995 Euros with 13"DD.
Old MP was 1995 Euros with 10"DD.
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Re: Nexus Standard MP

Post by Filternozzle » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:23 pm

raverill wrote:I've got one of the new upgraded MP's on order and can't wait to get delivery and put the new machine through its paces on my permission...the improvements and performance that Nexus has posted sound mighty impressive..looking forward to it
Hi Raverill, are you in a position to post your experience with the new MP yet?
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Re: Nexus Standard MP

Post by raverill » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:57 am

Filternozzle wrote:
raverill wrote:I've got one of the new upgraded MP's on order and can't wait to get delivery and put the new machine through its paces on my permission...the improvements and performance that Nexus has posted sound mighty impressive..looking forward to it
Hi Raverill, are you in a position to post your experience with the new MP yet?

Hi
What i can tell you is that the in air tests are as Georgi has stated in his earlier post..at least on the vicki penny....When I'm next out I will do some in the ground tests with a new 5p coin ( non iron core) and vicki penny just to check in ground performance. I'll report back when I've done this ::g

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by raverill » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:04 am

Hi
What I can tell you is that the in air tests that Georgi posted earlier seem to bear out with ones I've done...at least on the Vicki penny...
When I'm next out I'll conduct some in ground tests on new 5p coin ( non iron core) and vicki penny and see what we get...
I'll post my findings ... ::g

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by redwulf500 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:00 pm

hi what are these detectors like close to houses/power lines etc . do they pick electrical interferance up. thanks red.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by raverill » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:25 pm

When I first started detecting, many years ago ( ahem), one of my fields had power lines going over it..The detector I had then ( Arado 120B) was unusable in that field due to interference from them..
I've been in that same field a week ago and at times directly underneath them with the new MP..The MP was unfazed!

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by redwulf500 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:03 am

raverill wrote:When I first started detecting, many years ago ( ahem), one of my fields had power lines going over it..The detector I had then ( Arado 120B) was unusable in that field due to interference from them..
I've been in that same field a week ago and at times directly underneath them with the new MP..The MP was unfazed!
hi thanks for that , whats it like if
turned on in the house or garden.....red

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by raverill » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:35 am

You can get a steady threshold if the machine is still in the house( i.e. On a table) but obviously completely unusable if you move it due to its sensitivity as it picks up any large metal items in the house from great distance...

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Re: Nexus Standard MP

Post by redwulf500 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:42 am

Filternozzle wrote:My MP settings yesterday on where ground balanced out at 7.2 on the GB control.
Hi i have just bought a mp the old type with 10inch coil.when you say gb at 7.2. Is the 7 in the small window & 2 on the dial.yesterdays first try on old pasture gb in the window was 5 & between 7 & 8 on the dial.does this seem right.....red

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Re: Nexus Standard MP

Post by Filternozzle » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:21 pm

redwulf500 wrote:
Filternozzle wrote:My MP settings yesterday on where ground balanced out at 7.2 on the GB control.
Hi i have just bought a mp the old type with 10inch coil.when you say gb at 7.2. Is the 7 in the small window & 2 on the dial.yesterdays first try on old pasture gb in the window was 5 & between 7 & 8 on the dial.does this seem right.....red
Yes, 7 in the window and 2 on the dial was my setting that day.
Ground varies from place to place and the beauty of a wide band on the gb control gives you a lot of flexibility. If your machine ground balances at 5.7 or 8 its a reflection of the ground mineralisation there; if you were to go to different location you would probably have a different setting. The important thing to remember is, with the ground balance set correctly, you will get the best performance from your detector.
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by redwulf500 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:18 pm

hi thanks for the info much appreciated....red.

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Re: The New Nexus MP (Introduced 1st Sep 16)

Post by Filternozzle » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:17 pm

I have joined the ranks of those with the New Nexus MP (Introduced 1st September 2016)..... Christmas is a wonderful occasion !!!! ::g

It finally arrived today and I cant wait to get out into a small pasture field that has been well detected over the years throwing up the occasional (and I mean occasional!) hammered penny, medieval buckle and spindle whorl. It hasn't been ploughed in living memory and my detecting pal Jim and myself feel there may be something to be had at depth and I mean depth. We have been using the earlier model Nexus MP, Nautilus DMCII-b and GPX-5000.

Hopefully, the weather will be kind this coming weekend as it is my intention to give my New Nexus MP a thorough workout on this pasture. I will report back on performance and am very hopeful this latest version MP will prove to be more than very useful.

I have ordered up 20 new AA rechargeable batteries, the MP takes 10 at a time but because of its power I will require two packs to get through a full days detecting.

I wish all forum members a fruitful 2017.
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Blackadder43 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:19 pm

Best of luck mate, dedication at its best
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Filternozzle » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:39 pm

Out with the new upgraded Nexus MP and have to say I am very pleased with the performance. Detected in a small pasture field which has produced very little in the way of finds but has over the course of a couple of years produced a few hammered a couple of medieval buckles and a spindle whorl.

My detecting pal Jim and myself have always felt this field could produce more but that it would take a deep seeking machine. Jim uses the Nautilus DMC-IIBa and I have been using my GPX5000 with a 14" coil. Our non ferrous finds of late have been few and far between so I am very pleased with the performance of non ferrous finds as shown in the photograph. All of these finds were at depths between 7" and 14" and most between 9" and 14".

What pleased me the most was the finds consisted of both high and low conductors. The two copper turners (third and fourth from the left above the ruler) come from the 1500/1600s and are paper thin low conductors found at around 7-8", the hammered was around the 10" mark.

I would say this new Nexus MP is ideal for those who have pasture sites that have produced over the years and are now not producing. This detector has the ability to get down deep and find items other machines have not been able to reach.

I would also stress this detector is not for those who want to switch on and flit across a field. To get the performance with this new Nexus MP your sweep speed has to slow down to match the slower recovery speed.
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Filternozzle » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:13 am

Finds using the new MP this weekend. Very pleased with the performance. Found another half crown, this time 1936, 6d 1928 & 1948, rose farthing, what I thought to be a coin but is lead with a crown over a thistle with numeral 3 to the right side. plus a few buttons. Most of which were at a good depth, certainly over 7". The 2/6d around 10". Running with sensitivity at the midday position, on wet grass. All metal mode, discrimination setting at zero using the LED for ferrous ID.
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Mega B » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:30 am

@Filternozzle,some nice finds ::g was also out with my new MP yesterday using basically the same settings as yourself,really am enjoying using this detector.Albeit finds had been scarce but at least i got some more hours on the clock,but the MP has become one of my favourite machines along side the Deus.

Looking at getting the 13'' coil for it,not really sure who sells them in the UK though,so may have too get one direct from Nexus.

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Re: Nexus MP

Post by Filternozzle » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:41 am

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Looking at getting the 13'' coil for it,not really sure who sells them in the UK though,so may have too get one direct from Nexus.[/quote]
Rick try: http://www.worldwidedetectors.com/oursh ... ctors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
for your 13" coil.
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Re: Nexus MP

Post by redwulf500 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:53 am

Filternozzle wrote:[quote="
Looking at getting the 13'' coil for it,not really sure who sells them in the UK though,so may have too get one direct from Nexus.
Rick try: http://www.worldwidedetectors.com/oursh ... ctors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
for your 13" coil.[/quote]
hi ring them first as i had to wait a couple of weeks for mine..red

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