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Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Hairyhands » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:34 am

Many may know ive had my Nox for a week or more now, and love it i hunt with sids settings which i tweak and i use all metal mode. Was in my ridge and furrow yesterday and it performed well. Lots of buttons and 3 copper William coins and buckles etc. On 3 occasions i dug either a rusty iron buckle or some deep iron these gave a good signal. My question is this normal, or should the Nox be be showing minus or grunting. As the iron was singing dig me.



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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Ladybird66 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:05 am

Join the club. Yes it’s fairly normal especially with odd shaped iron, large or small.
Haven’t looked at SIDS settings but I assume there’s some iron bias being used.?

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by fred » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:18 am

Holed iron will fool most detectors. You can tell it with the Nox but I tend to dig it anyway just to be sure.

If you have only dug 3 pieces of iron you probably have a good starting setup. Once you settle down with the machine and get familiar with the controls come back to us and discuss your settings, or better still read through the old forum posts.

The main control for avoiding iron is Iron Bias, which is an Advanced Setting and sits behind Response Speed on the Settings menu. Most people seem to use it set at about 2 or 3 because if you set it too high it will reduce sensitivity on the good stuff. ::g
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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Hairyhands » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:51 am

Cheers I thought as much. I'm like you Fred dig most signals my iron bias is at 2 recovery at 5 but drop this as I go if it is less noisy ground. Sensitivity I'm in the 20s most of time but do occasionally drop it. I know my exploeror picked up round iron

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by fred » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:14 pm

Hairyhands wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:51 am
Cheers I thought as much. I'm like you Fred dig most signals my iron bias is at 2 recovery at 5 but drop this as I go if it is less noisy ground. Sensitivity I'm in the 20s most of time but do occasionally drop it. I know my exploeror picked up round iron

Those settings look good. Recovery Speed does affect depth so I use it cautiously. I use a Recovery Speed of 4 with the larger coil as it narrows the signal and aids pinpointing and 3, or even 2, with the stock coil. ::g

Iron, especially with holes in it, will sometimes just sing out and you have no real choice but to dig it. More often it gives a positive signal with negative signals around the edge. The positive number for iron can be anywhere from about 12 to 18 or so but it tends to be consistent on each site. I usually still dig these dodgy signals anyway but mostly guess them right these days. I find that iron also tends to pinpoint a bit off centre but you don't find that out until you've dug it. :D
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Post by Hairyhands » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:04 pm

Top man Fred we sound like we almost detect in a similar way. I'm loving this machine at the moment

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by fred » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:53 pm

Hairyhands wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:04 pm
Top man Fred we sound like we almost detect in a similar way. I'm loving this machine at the moment

You will love it even more once you start to discover what it can really do. ::g
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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Hairyhands » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:23 pm

Ive a 5 acre ridge and furrow field near princess Dianna's church, i just hope it produces a little something until i get back to my Roman sites.

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Ten pence! » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:28 pm

With my 600 I've not unintentionally dug iron for a while now, and I use zero iron bias and the fastest recovery speed, firstly walk around the target and listen for high tone falsing, for want of a better description you'll hear brief chirps that sound like a budgie! Also check for minus numbers next to mid teen positive numbers, (assuming you notch in some iron or run in all metal) a dead giveaway, that said always dig if you are not 100% certain and try and "isolate" a good signal by employing short swings whilst moving around the target.

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by fred » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:50 am

Ten pence! wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:28 pm
With my 600 I've not unintentionally dug iron for a while now, and I use zero iron bias and the fastest recovery speed, firstly walk around the target and listen for high tone falsing, for want of a better description you'll hear brief chirps that sound like a budgie! Also check for minus numbers next to mid teen positive numbers, (assuming you notch in some iron or run in all metal) a dead giveaway, that said always dig if you are not 100% certain and try and "isolate" a good signal by employing short swings whilst moving around the target.
That is a really interesting setup. ::g

What I am starting to appreciate with the Nox is that there is actually no 'best' programme which will get everything, particularly on busy sites. If you get everything that you can out with your normal programme and the field goes quiet try changing a few settings. I can almost guarantee that you will winkle a few more targets out. Some of which will make you wonder how the hell you missed them. :D
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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Ten pence! » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:59 pm

Indeed, unfortunately my best permissions are quite mineralised and contain a fair bit of smallish iron, running in "traditional" Minelab modes that are slow recovering and with highish discrimination do not really work here, my grounds respond best when using fast recovering machines such as an F75/T2 or GMP, frankly I'd not be using a Minelab had Minelab not brought out the Equinox!

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Spooky » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:20 pm

Im no expert here and have only been metal detecting since april when i bought a nox 800. But for what its worth if i get a slightly iffy single say around 14 and only jumping slighty i switch frequency from multi to 20 and it will bounce the signal usually from to 14 to 20 and over intermittently if its iron , but stay fairly steady around 14 if it is not. ={~#
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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by slowsweep » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:01 am

who is Sid ?
Just dig it and put your mind at rest

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by Hairyhands » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:56 pm

Sid from searcher mag

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by slowsweep » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:21 pm

Hairyhands wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:56 pm
Sid from searcher mag
no, still dont know him, or the mag.

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Re: Sorry a question for the Equinox

Post by fred » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:35 pm

slowsweep wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:21 pm
Hairyhands wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:56 pm
Sid from searcher mag
no, still dont know him, or the mag.

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