CTX Compared to Equonix

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CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by rossi » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm

Was at a rally at the weekend in Co.Down
Used the Equinox in the morning and found lots of scrap iron with ID 16 as well as some goodies
Used the CTX after lunch during which time a friend with a new Equinox asked me to check out a signal with ID of 16
Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all
Left me wondering!!
By the way it was scrap iron in the hole


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Re: CTX Compared to the Equonix

Post by Ten pence! » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:39 pm

I can't remember the last time I unintentionally dug scrap iron with my 600, firstly a large target with an ID of under 18 will almost certainly be iron, walk around the target and look for negative numbers as you come off of it, you can also try "pumping" the coil over the loudest part of said target (you should get an iron tone or silence) secondly small nails can fool some machines, again walk around the target and listen for tell tale high tone falseing and one way signals/clipped signals. Incidentally I use zero iron bias and the fastest recovery speed with multi tones, I hunt mainly by tone and only glance at the numbers before digging.

Perhaps get some more time on the Equinox and see if the above works for you as well?

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Re: CTX Compared to the Equonix

Post by Junior » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:45 pm

Did u get iron with the ctx in the afternoon ?

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Re: CTX Compared to the Equonix

Post by rossi » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:53 pm

Thanks for your prompt reply
Not be out again until the weekend but I'll try to use your advice
Was out yesterday on a new permission covered in "can slaw"using the Equonix but managed 3 silver sixpences
1 Victoria and 2 Bullheads in excellent condition plus 1 Hibernia halfpenny and 1 Hibernia penny
They are being soaked in olive oil at the moment
What a difference a day makes
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Re: CTX Compared to the Equonix

Post by rossi » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:56 pm

Hi Junior A few pieces but I have been using the CTX for about 5 years /quote]

I'm knackered after digging 2 days in succession
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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by Buriedbytime&dust » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:08 pm

rossi wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm
Was at a rally at the weekend in Co.Down
Used the Equinox in the morning and found lots of scrap iron with ID 16 as well as some goodies
Used the CTX after lunch during which time a friend with a new Equinox asked me to check out a signal with ID of 16
Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all
Left me wondering!!
By the way it was scrap iron in the hole
CTX had it right then ::g

As much as I love the sharpness, and depth, of the Equinox on very small targets (even .177 airgun pellets!), the CTX's target ID is so much more precise, and I certainly won't be shifting mine any time soon.

I'm told that, even on open screen, the CTX doesn't operate on a true all-metal basis, so that might explain it.

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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by fred » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:20 pm

The CTX target ID is undoubtedly far superior to the Equinox. Trouble is you have to get the target in the first place, which the Equinox is better at. I hardly dig any iron with the Nox these days but I usually dig everything nonferrous anyway so not a major problem for me but it is obvious how the next generation of Minelab detectors could be improved. ::g
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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by Allectus » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:22 pm

"Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all"

Happy days! ::g ....who want's dig iron? x;

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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by Ten pence! » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:50 pm

Allectus wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:22 pm
"Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all"

Happy days! ::g ....who want's dig iron ? x;

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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by Allectus » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:23 pm

I rest my case! x; :))

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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by rossi » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:31 pm

Every year I clear a paddock which my daughter has, of horse shoes
Even find an odd aluminium one and have found a complete circle shoe
Looks different
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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by Fell Wanderer » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:54 pm

rossi wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm
Was at a rally at the weekend in Co.Down
Used the Equinox in the morning and found lots of scrap iron with ID 16 as well as some goodies
Used the CTX after lunch during which time a friend with a new Equinox asked me to check out a signal with ID of 16
Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all
Left me wondering!!
By the way it was scrap iron in the hole
My experience with the CTX3030 versus the Nox is this. A friend of mine has the CTX3030, its an outstanding machine and doesn't dig much iron to be honest. My Equinox 800 will false more on ferrous but I can read the Nox better now after 6 months of use and know roughly 90% of the time its ferrous so don't dig. Where the Nox shines through over the CTX3030 IMHO is the unmasking of complex targets, with ferrous and non ferrous being close together. My friend left a target which first appeared in the black and then was rejected into the red after a couple of swings by the machine. Out of curiousity I checked the target and was iffy as hell, lots of minus numbers in all metal mode indicating ferrous. I slowed down the swing and with a small wiggle was giving mostly good signals both ways, although still a bit iffy so decided to dig. It turned out to be a small lead pistol ball close to iron. My friend only uses default settings and can't comment more on what program he was using. I'm going to dig mostly everything anyway that isn't ferrous so don't need all the added information the CTX3030 may tell us via the screen. The Nox gives us information in a different language compared to the CTX. Yes the Nox may false more than the CTX on ferrous but is also telling us there are other good objects there too. Its understanding what the machine is telling thats important. The skill of the operator able to read those complex targets is a factor so its not so clear cut that one machine is better than another. Just my theory on having spent quite a bit of time out with friend who has a CTX3030
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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by slowsweep » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:29 pm

rossi wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm
Was at a rally at the weekend in Co.Down
Used the Equinox in the morning and found lots of scrap iron with ID 16 as well as some goodies
Used the CTX after lunch during which time a friend with a new Equinox asked me to check out a signal with ID of 16
Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all
Left me wondering!!
By the way it was scrap iron in the hole
sounds like you need to adjust your Recovery speed and Iron Bias on the nox, as for your settings for the ctx ? who knows but imo the ctx is the deeper of the 2 machines.

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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by dig-dog » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:47 pm

Ten pence! wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:50 pm
Allectus wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:22 pm
"Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all"

Happy days! ::g ....who want's dig iron ? x;

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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by fred » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:47 pm

slowsweep wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:29 pm
rossi wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm
Was at a rally at the weekend in Co.Down
Used the Equinox in the morning and found lots of scrap iron with ID 16 as well as some goodies
Used the CTX after lunch during which time a friend with a new Equinox asked me to check out a signal with ID of 16
Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all
Left me wondering!!
By the way it was scrap iron in the hole
sounds like you need to adjust your Recovery speed and Iron Bias on the nox, as for your settings for the ctx ? who knows but imo the ctx is the deeper of the 2 machines.

GL&HH
I agree about the adjustments needed to the settings on the Noxes. I also agree that the CTX is deeper, although not by very much and not on all targets. The Nox will go deeper on hammies than the CTX but not quite as deep on larger targets. ::g
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Re: CTX Compared to Equonix

Post by Junior » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:56 pm

fred wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:47 pm
slowsweep wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:29 pm
rossi wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm
Was at a rally at the weekend in Co.Down
Used the Equinox in the morning and found lots of scrap iron with ID 16 as well as some goodies
Used the CTX after lunch during which time a friend with a new Equinox asked me to check out a signal with ID of 16
Tried with CTX with an open screen and it did not find it at all
Left me wondering!!
By the way it was scrap iron in the hole
sounds like you need to adjust your Recovery speed and Iron Bias on the nox, as for your settings for the ctx ? who knows but imo the ctx is the deeper of the 2 machines.

GL&HH
I agree about the adjustments needed to the settings on the Noxes. I also agree that the CTX is deeper, although not by very much and not on all targets. The Nox will go deeper on hammies than the CTX but not quite as deep on larger targets. ::g

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