ID Challenge No.12 (28-2 to 01-3-19)

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ID Challenge No.12 (28-2 to 01-3-19)

Post by thefiggis » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:48 pm

There be witchcraft afoot. Witchcraft, I tell ye, and ye'd be best advised to lock and bar the doors and windows and avoid black cats...

What ho,

Well, here's a thing (well, two things actually but they're both the same). A second item kindly sent in by Littleboot for an ID challenge (used in IDC No.11) was shortly followed by one from Sweepstick47 and for a moment I though I was going insane. I checked and double-checked but yes, the items were subtly different but basically the same thing. Whooo, spooky or what? ={~# *Shudders* Any road up, on with the motley...

The first two images are Littleboot's. Found in France, it is said to be of Merovingian origin

The second two images are Sweepstick's and come from a UK site and is said to be early medieval (Saxon).

The objects have been identified, though the actual use, more on this side of the Channel, is the subject of differing opinion. Ah, 'twas ever thus.

ID challenge form available HERE and have as many stabs as you like (as Julius Caesar said to Brutus).

Closes Saturday, 1st March sometime after 5pm.

Many thanks to LB and SS47 for offering up their treasure for the challenge.

Good luck ::g
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Post by fred » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:07 pm

It's an early type of cloth fastener. There is no concensus about whether they are dress fasteners, shroud hooks or clips used during cloth manufacture, or perhaps even all 3. Although they are often dated as early Medieval, i.e. Saxon period, they could well have been used well after that.

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Post by MPower » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 pm

Viking string fastener?
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Post by MPower » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:03 pm

Viking toggle.
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Post by Junior » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:25 am

Top one my missing toggle off my school boy parka snorkeller...... the bottom something Celtic....it's as good as it gets..... cheers

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Post by Spearhead » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:33 am

Clothing/ shroud fastener.

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Post by shaggybfc » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:03 pm

I wouldn't know where to start on this one. I'd hazard a guess or early medieval buckle - maybe worn or broken.
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Post by froggyfagan » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:59 pm

Fibula,probably Roman as littleboot has a residence in Ne France

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Post by gavnsal » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:44 pm

early medieval dress fastener

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Post by alloverover » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:20 pm

Early medieval dress fastener, some people say they are shroud hooks.

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Post by hd1958 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:27 pm

clothing clasp ?

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Re: ID Challenge No.12 (28-2 to 01-3-19)

Post by thefiggis » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:14 am

Yep, looks like you pretty much got this one sussed ::g

Fred's link above gives an explanation of current thinking on these. Found as grave goods across the water, seemingly none have so far been found in burials here. Interesting.

Thanks once again, Jan and Eric, for your welcome contribution ::g

Well done all, and many thanks for taking part.

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