Newbie from the Planet Thanet. First Hammered & Queen Ann medal

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Newbie from the Planet Thanet. First Hammered & Queen Ann medal

Post by Dom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:35 pm

New topic - split from original intro post

This one is weird, it's silver.
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by PeakDetectorist » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:40 pm

I don't know mate but it looks like your hard work is paying off. Good work ::g
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Dom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:42 pm

My first hammered!!!!
I'm in love.
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Post by Dom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:44 pm

Gammy fingers included.

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Post by Dom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:55 pm

Broach thing?
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:41 am

Enjoyed the write up..
Looks like a great site and now you are At one
With your machine..I predict some great finds.
The first ‘coin’ is stunning
Can see thistles to the left of the shield.
My moneys on a Queen Anne union of the crowns something
Maybe a medal?
I may be far wrong but once I was right..
Nice one ::g
Edit...what size is the top silver coin and the
Bottom artefact...,can be helpful :D
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Twit » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:16 am

Here is a facet of early history of the area for you

http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/04/tha ... cians.html

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:20 pm

Hi Dom-again!
If I were you I would put up a new thread with your two coins
In the title
The unidentified I thought ‘possible’ Queen Anne union of the crowns medal
And that gorgeous hammy deserve a bigger audience ::g
I’m desperate to know what the first one is...
:D
Still clueless on the artefact as well.
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Dom » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:23 pm

Lowland wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:20 pm
Hi Dom-again!
If I were you I would put up a new thread with your two coins
In the title
The unidentified I thought ‘possible’ Queen Anne union of the crowns medal
And that gorgeous hammy deserve a bigger audience ::g
I’m desperate to know what the first one is...
:D
Still clueless on the artefact as well.

Thanks Lowland, I keep going to Queen Anne as well, but that head is so crude! Looked at some union of the crowns medals and they are far more detailed on the bust. When I first wiped the mud off I saw the head and almost had a heart attack thinking it was saxon, then quickly realised it wasn't hammered.
Is it ok to post the same pics more than twice? I don't want to breach some forum etiquette.

Went there again today, but it's expose to the elements there and the wind and rain defeated me. :(

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Dom » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm

Twit wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:16 am
Here is a facet of early history of the area for you

http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/04/tha ... cians.html

::g

Brilliant! Thank you. I will print that off and read it tonight. It's amazing how wide the wantsum was, also Reculver makes so much more sense with it's positioning.
I want to metal detect the beach there, not directly under as i believe that's a sssi place, but a bit further a long.

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Twit » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:47 pm

Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm
Twit wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:16 am
Here is a facet of early history of the area for you

http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/04/tha ... cians.html

::g

Brilliant! Thank you. I will print that off and read it tonight. It's amazing how wide the wantsum was, also Reculver makes so much more sense with it's positioning.
I want to metal detect the beach there, not directly under as i believe that's a sssi place, but a bit further a long.

I am in southern Iberia, the coast has a long history of Phoenician and Carthaginian involvement, trading posts etc. Part of what is being researched now is the pre-Roman tribal world. In the south the native Iberian population was little Celticised, but it seems they drew some from their trading partners.

Top photo is an adornment found locally of Tanit.

https://pcamarinhoa.wordpress.com/2017/ ... rtessos-2/

Sorry-in Spanish.

That medal made me jump a bit too :)) ... by the head dress it looks closer to Victoria, but I really dont know... could be common with other monarchs... e.g. :

https://www.cointrust.co.uk/product-p/3316.htm

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:01 pm

Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:23 pm
Lowland wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:20 pm
Hi Dom-again!
If I were you I would put up a new thread with your two coins
In the title
The unidentified I thought ‘possible’ Queen Anne union of the crowns medal
And that gorgeous hammy deserve a bigger audience ::g
I’m desperate to know what the first one is...
:D
Still clueless on the artefact as well.

Thanks Lowland, I keep going to Queen Anne as well, but that head is so crude! Looked at some union of the crowns medals and they are far more detailed on the bust. When I first wiped the mud off I saw the head and almost had a heart attack thinking it was saxon, then quickly realised it wasn't hammered.
Is it ok to post the same pics more than twice? I don't want to breach some forum etiquette.

Went there again today, but it's expose to the elements there and the wind and rain defeated me. :(
You could just change the title?
That’ll bring em in ::g
My god I think I would pitch a tent on that site!
:D
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Dom » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:49 pm

Twit wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:47 pm
Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm
Twit wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:16 am
Here is a facet of early history of the area for you

http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/04/tha ... cians.html

::g

Brilliant! Thank you. I will print that off and read it tonight. It's amazing how wide the wantsum was, also Reculver makes so much more sense with it's positioning.
I want to metal detect the beach there, not directly under as i believe that's a sssi place, but a bit further a long.

I am in southern Iberia, the coast has a long history of Phoenician and Carthaginian involvement, trading posts etc. Part of what is being researched now is the pre-Roman tribal world. In the south the native Iberian population was little Celticised, but it seems they drew some from their trading partners.

Top photo is an adornment found locally of Tanit.

https://pcamarinhoa.wordpress.com/2017/ ... rtessos-2/

Sorry-in Spanish.

That medal made me jump a bit too :)) ... by the head dress it looks closer to Victoria, but I really dont know... could be common with other monarchs... e.g. :

https://www.cointrust.co.uk/product-p/3316.htm

::g
Wow! To find something that will re-enforce that trade link would be amazing.
Just been seeing finds on Dr Caitlin Green's twitter, it makes sense and is it really that surprising?
It's kind of a quest... finding the Tanit in Thanet.
I agree about the head dress, the only thing that bothers me is how crude it is, surely if it was Victoria it would be better... though if it was locally done maybe not. It could be some local and very popular wench down the pub whose father was a scot and her mother was irish :))

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Dom » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:00 pm

Lowland wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:01 pm
Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:23 pm
Lowland wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:20 pm
Hi Dom-again!
If I were you I would put up a new thread with your two coins
In the title
The unidentified I thought ‘possible’ Queen Anne union of the crowns medal
And that gorgeous hammy deserve a bigger audience ::g
I’m desperate to know what the first one is...
:D
Still clueless on the artefact as well.

Thanks Lowland, I keep going to Queen Anne as well, but that head is so crude! Looked at some union of the crowns medals and they are far more detailed on the bust. When I first wiped the mud off I saw the head and almost had a heart attack thinking it was saxon, then quickly realised it wasn't hammered.
Is it ok to post the same pics more than twice? I don't want to breach some forum etiquette.

Went there again today, but it's expose to the elements there and the wind and rain defeated me. :(
You could just change the title?
That’ll bring em in ::g
My god I think I would pitch a tent on that site!
:D
I could do that! I've already got my hand slapped in a very polite manner as i'm only supposed to post 3 photo's a day rl;
Makes sense as it stops spamming... as i did.

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet. First Hammered and a Mystery Silver Coin.

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:16 pm

Job done ::g
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet. First Hammered and a Mystery Silver Coin.

Post by fred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:22 pm

Nice little Queen Anne Act of Union medal I think. It commemorates Scotland and Ireland joining the rest of us in 1707 and becoming the United (if only temporarily :D ) Kingdom.
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet. First Hammered and a Mystery Silver Coin.

Post by Dom » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:56 pm

Makes sense as yourself and Lowland said. The thistles on one side and the shamrocks on the other with the shield and 3 lions.
It's just such a bad portrait of Queen Anne! The person who did that should have been shot.

Thanks you so much for the input, this forum is amazing... i'd be so lost without it on figuring this stuff out.

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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet. First Hammered and a Mystery Silver Coin.

Post by Lowland » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:59 pm

Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:56 pm
Makes sense as yourself and Lowland said. The thistles on one side and the shamrocks on the other with the shield and 3 lions.
It's just such a bad portrait of Queen Anne! The person who did that should have been shot.

Thanks you so much for the input, this forum is amazing... i'd be so lost without it on figuring this stuff out.
She’s no knock out on some of her coin portraits either!
But some paintings of her-she looks like a bit of a Fox
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Re: Newbie from the Planet Thanet.

Post by Twit » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:17 pm

Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:49 pm
Twit wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:47 pm
Dom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm



Brilliant! Thank you. I will print that off and read it tonight. It's amazing how wide the wantsum was, also Reculver makes so much more sense with it's positioning.
I want to metal detect the beach there, not directly under as i believe that's a sssi place, but a bit further a long.

I am in southern Iberia, the coast has a long history of Phoenician and Carthaginian involvement, trading posts etc. Part of what is being researched now is the pre-Roman tribal world. In the south the native Iberian population was little Celticised, but it seems they drew some from their trading partners.

Top photo is an adornment found locally of Tanit.

https://pcamarinhoa.wordpress.com/2017/ ... rtessos-2/

Sorry-in Spanish.

That medal made me jump a bit too :)) ... by the head dress it looks closer to Victoria, but I really dont know... could be common with other monarchs... e.g. :

https://www.cointrust.co.uk/product-p/3316.htm

::g
Wow! To find something that will re-enforce that trade link would be amazing.
Just been seeing finds on Dr Caitlin Green's twitter, it makes sense and is it really that surprising?
It's kind of a quest... finding the Tanit in Thanet.
I agree about the head dress, the only thing that bothers me is how crude it is, surely if it was Victoria it would be better... though if it was locally done maybe not. It could be some local and very popular wench down the pub whose father was a scot and her mother was irish :))
Except silver would not likely be crudely made ( and I was thinking similar of a local maid etc. but not likely ) unless older - so hope it is Queen Anne. Seems quite unique ::g

Yes, travel by sea was the deal in those days...and people did get around, it wasn't all wars and kingdoms. I was reading up on the Carthaginian (Punic) army (used mostly in conflict with Rome), and even then it was comprised of a very large contingent of Gaulish mercenaries... so they must have been visiting and had ties with France at least... and the UK had the tin in those days... and there were cross channel tribal allegiances also... so hard to imagine that there was not some kind of wider arrangement for the all. I leave you to your finding it :D .

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