Metal Detecting

Thanks hammyman, I had that problem on the GMP, everybody did at some stage. However, so far with the Deus, the coil has not flopped about. I use my foot to get the angle of the leading edge of the coil just right for my swinging action - something many people ignore - and have not had to adjust the tightness so far, but will use your advice if/when necessary.
If we do manage to get a field or two for a day - anywhere - I will do all the arranging and Nigel from Regtons is also willing to be involved. It could serve as the Forum Dig that has yet to happen. I have lots of land but all tightly controlled by two lords of the realm who tolerate me but would not want a crowd of people on their land, Liam B-)

Not had the coil bolt 'flop' on me yet but the lower cam lock slips after a long session with the big coil. I'm not sure how long they're going to last!! Cheers, Alex

Now the XP Deus come with one extra bolt to replacement.

I would be interested to know how many Deus owners just use the preset programmes, as these were installed by professional people, I am not trying to knock anyone but I would have thought that by changing settings all the time ( other than the sensitivity etc.) we are just confusing ourselves, is it that by trying to configure a new programme we are trying to better someone else,in the meantime Instead of pushing every button in sight I will take it slowly and take in what some of the more technicaly minded people on this forum like Liam, Hammyman, Kmarsh etc, suggest,as I said in the begining I am not having a go at anyone, I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Geoff

Well I guess that the perset program is an "Optimal General" setting. Everyone have small variation on their field, that they try to tune up to that.. And when you push off button,, everything is back to normal. So in that way it gives you experience about your machine.. But it do run great on the fabric preset prog to..

GeoffBristol wrote:I would be interested to know how many Deus owners just use the preset programmes, as these were installed by professional people, I am not trying to knock anyone but I would have thought that by changing settings all the time ( other than the sensitivity etc.) we are just confusing ourselves, is it that by trying to configure a new programme we are trying to better someone else,in the meantime Instead of pushing every button in sight I will take it slowly and take in what some of the more technicaly minded people on this forum like Liam, Hammyman, Kmarsh etc, suggest,as I said in the begining I am not having a go at anyone, I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Geoff

Most of us that have had and used the Deus for a while now Geoff have been saying this.... whats the point of opening the box and wanting to change the settings b4 you have even been out on the fields with it....... well said though....

hammyman wrote:Just another small heads up for the new users.The coil bolt is useless!!It will only tighten to a set torque.Once exceeded, you end up with a floppy coil.It might not have happened yet,but it will!You can buy a replacement from Regtons for about a fiver.Or........you can change to these; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Nylon-Plas ... 3f0b3f6e2b" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I have used one of these for over a year on the little coil,and since January on the big coil.They work,and are cheap as chips.

Just to add.... to overcome the loose coil syndrome.... as hammyman says you can tighten up till the threads slips and its generally still floppy..... I turned a washer down made of nylon stuff on me lathe. to fit on the nut side of the stem, its now a tight fit on the coil, so only have to tighten the nut up a little..sorted..

ok i have got a breakthrough at the weekend i will talk and hopefully meet a deus owner that is fully conversant with the deus and i do hope to be able to get some answers,

the air test with the pre decimal coin which was done under the supervision of regtons did not give the results expected so a predecimal penny on the small coil should sound off at 14 to 15 inches where mine dissappeared at 11 inches so that is sort of bench mark test they can do to work out problem or not.

i am so thrilled to be able to tallk to someone who praises the deus and is fully happy with it my hopes are that we will both be in the same programe and he will go over a signal listening to the quality of the tone and then i will go over it and check out the signal this is just such an amazing positive step for me and hopefully i will learn more and report back THRILLED as i have been working hard in the regular programes and will be only to pleased to be able to report i have CRACKED IT WHOOOOPEE

GeoffBristol wrote:I would be interested to know how many Deus owners just use the preset programmes, as these were installed by professional people, I am not trying to knock anyone but I would have thought that by changing settings all the time ( other than the sensitivity etc.) we are just confusing ourselves, is it that by trying to configure a new programme we are trying to better someone else,in the meantime Instead of pushing every button in sight I will take it slowly and take in what some of the more technicaly minded people on this forum like Liam, Hammyman, Kmarsh etc, suggest,as I said in the begining I am not having a go at anyone, I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Geoff

Wise words. When I was using the GMP, I soon learned that altering any of the settings had a knock on effect on how the rest of the settings operated. For instance a common mistake is to increase the sensitivity to gain more depth, but as the Norfolk Wolf pointed out, this can be like turning up the volume on a poorly tuned radio and all it may do is just increase the noise and static. You need to have those tones coming in as clear as possible, the volume is not too important. The ear likes low'ish volume so that it can differentiate between the subtle tones.
I also agree that when proficient with the machine, individual settings can be used but these should be done slowly and with care. The Deus, like any machine, needs to be used extensively to get the feel of it. On top of that, like any machine that rolls off the assembly line, one machine may differ from the next one, that was certainly true of the GMP as it had rotary control knobs that could be fitted slightly differently.
So, change things with care! Liam

liamnolan wrote:

GeoffBristol wrote:I would be interested to know how many Deus owners just use the preset programmes, as these were installed by professional people, I am not trying to knock anyone but I would have thought that by changing settings all the time ( other than the sensitivity etc.) we are just confusing ourselves, is it that by trying to configure a new programme we are trying to better someone else,in the meantime Instead of pushing every button in sight I will take it slowly and take in what some of the more technicaly minded people on this forum like Liam, Hammyman, Kmarsh etc, suggest,as I said in the begining I am not having a go at anyone, I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Geoff

Wise words. When I was using the GMP, I soon learned that altering any of the settings had a knock on effect on how the rest of the settings operated. For instance a common mistake is to increase the sensitivity to gain more depth, but as the Norfolk Wolf pointed out, this can be like turning up the volume on a poorly tuned radio and all it may do is just increase the noise and static. You need to have those tones coming in as clear as possible, the volume is not too important. The ear likes low'ish volume so that it can differentiate between the subtle tones.



I also agree that when proficient with the machine, individual settings can be used but these should be done slowly and with care. The Deus, like any machine, needs to be used extensively to get the feel of it. On top of that, like any machine that rolls off the assembly line, one machine may differ from the next one, that was certainly true of the GMP as it had rotary control knobs that could be fitted slightly differently.QUOTE


guys i read with interest and take note of your comments BUT i would like to alter the thesh hold so my ears get used to tones i like and my ears will accept. i am quite positive that this will make no difference to the performance of the machine but want to run it past the experts before i do it thanks

UPDATE been out for a couple of hours today searched in programs with no changes. New permission went on the field where deus played up last week the sheep were moved and electric fence had therefor been turned off the deus did not play up so pleased with that/

each signal i got i mean everyone could be detected from the surface with my garrett pro pointer this is what makes me think i do have a major problem the threee buttons i got were clear signals i dug all sorts of signals broken iffy ones without ids and if i got a i 2 or 3 on id i slowed down and scanned slowly to see if i could pick up anything worth digging.

i am listening intently to any chance of a deep target when i get a target i am not sure of i run through a few of the programs to see which is the clearest signal and the pitch program does seem to give me the best signal of all i am not thrilled with the tone of the pitch programe but i am just working with anything that will give me a spark of confidence

i do hope the guy tomorrow can put me out of my misery as at the moment i feel totally at a loss as i really wanted to be able to go out hunting and be proud to say what a great machine it is i do know that alot of you have good deus that is what is giving me confidence that it is just a glitch and i will get it sorted in the end/ i love the weight and no coils the concept is brilliant but i do need more tonight i am extremely sad so please dont take it to heart that i cannot make it work

Do you know for a fact that there are deep targets in the field sugar............

why don'y ya go over an area with ya etrac, if you get a signal, mark it, do a few, then go over with the deus.... see what happens...........

we do a similar thing on digs to see if we are getting the depths,,,,,, an explorer picked up a bit of bronze at 12",,,,,,, and the deus also had a clear 2 way signal............ B-)

well i must be the most unlucky detectorist in the world if there is not a couple of deep targets and dont worry i am making all these excuses and tomorrow i do hope this guy will be able to spend some time if he agrees and i dont know his plans as he has offered to phone me tomorrow pm i do want to follow him and it is the only way i am going to sort it out one way or another

i am trying to believe i am not a crap detectorist when all you guys heap pratses on this machine but i am running out of excuses i am thrilled that i can lower the stem and will be able to take out my eight year old grandaughter and if she can find targets and doesnt have to dig far it would be so easy for her and perhaps i would give it her for christmas but at the price it seems a bit excessive for one child as i am sure if i looked around i could find her one at the fraction of the price

i really do want it to work as to swing it is such a breeze but after one month going out most days i have not recovered one deep target more than five inches are they there dont know if they are then they are hiding very well. isnt it funny how we rely on our detectors to produce i have learnt well to weedle targets from in between rubbish i do listen to the minutist of signals i dig when other people perhaps wouldnt cos i want to know what the machine is telling me i am prepared to learn its language and i will get some answers. the funny thing is I DONT THINK I AM ON MY OWN i think there is more than just me and if antone out there has any doubt please come forward and lets find out when this problem started THANKS FOR READING MY GRIPES

why dont you arrange a meet with someone with a deus off here and go through things with them ...its got to be better in the long run hun