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Bullet Tip ID

Post by ashjacko » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:25 pm

Hi all!

My friend Graham found this last Friday while we were out on pasture with his Deus and was wondering if anybody could help ID it please?

Its an unusual shape but I guessed it was a bullet tip of some sort maybe WWII?

Sorry I don't have the measurements but if you can see by comparison to my hands and my hands aren't that big.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by fred » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:39 pm

As it is the shape is not that of a bullet. However, it looks like it could be a .303 head which has had something really odd happen to it. :-/
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Rah7265 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:42 pm

I don’t know what it is but it isn’t a bullet.
Perhaps a finial or knob of some sort.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Easylife » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:44 pm

Is there a screw thread inside? x;
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by ashjacko » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:17 pm

It looked very much like a 303 but as you say the shape is odd. There is no thread on it and it is filled very much like a bullet tip to.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by fred » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:32 pm

ashjacko wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:17 pm
It looked very much like a 303 but as you say the shape is odd. There is no thread on it and it is filled very much like a bullet tip to.
Try offering up a .303 head to it. :D
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Dave The Slave » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm

Very unusual.
Boat tail ?
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Johnnn » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:19 pm

Tip from a dart, as in game of darts......HH.....Johnnn

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by ashjacko » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:23 pm

Johnnn wrote:
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Tip from a dart, as in game of darts......HH.....Johnnn
Really? is that what the iron is at the tip? the remains of the point.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by fred » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:36 pm

Johnnn wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:19 pm
Tip from a dart, as in game of darts......HH.....Johnnn
That sounds credible! ::g
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by thefiggis » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:42 pm

Certainly looks like a dart. What metal is it?
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Easylife » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:56 pm

Bullseye. :))
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by cantona1 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:15 pm

Dart Barrel with the remains of the plastic shaft in it.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Koala » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:19 pm

Looks very short for a conventional style dart which would be at least three finger width

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Koala » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:32 pm

Looks about right for 300-308 expect its about 3mm too short if the hands are close to mine.

Which would be about right if its squished down.

Even if it was solid lead by the time you have the drag of the flights it wouldn't have enough weight to reach a dartboard


I have dug loads of 303 but never one like this. But then again those are hitting hard targets.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by thefiggis » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:30 am

Koala wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:19 pm
Looks very short for a conventional style dart which would be at least three finger width
My own dart barrels are around 30mm and they're not uncommon.

I think the OP needs to give it a scrape and confirm what it's made of. A dart should be either brass or nickel tungsten.
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Resurgam » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:06 am

I have recovered thousands of .30 and .303 projectiles off my regular beaches but never one that even resembled that object. If there is a small screw head inside the open end; do not try to unscrew it, it may contain something nasty.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by TheMellowedMole » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:54 am

Hi there.
I think if it was a dart barrel would it not have some type of grip area or markings surrounding it for a soild hold of it before throwing it ?.
Most darts have.
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Koala » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:15 am

We can rule out bullet. I think.

Bullets have to have some of there sides parallel to stop it tipping in the barrel

If it had been fired there would be riffling marks on the base

No rings. Although the earlier on didn't have any they had a rounded tip


Its at the extreme of a dart.

32mm were the shortest I could find which is approximal what this is and would just come in at just over 10 gram which again is towards the bottom end but not impossible.


The shape is odd for a dart. Your finger would be down on the shaft to grip it. As you can get any shape custom made its not impossible.


The shape does remind me of a WW2 bomb. Some kind of toy ??? or model ??? Missing its fins


Or short answer. Dont know.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by PHILLUCKY » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:18 am

definatly a dart (brass bombs as we used to call them).

the stem wound have been wood and had feathers for a flight.

the point has eroded away

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Lowland » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:37 am

At the travelling shows this year they were still using Very similar bomb shaped darts
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Resurgam » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:02 pm

Hmmm, I wonder if it could be the tip off an early fletchette?
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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Koala » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:50 pm

PHILLUCKY wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:18 am
definatly a dart (brass bombs as we used to call them).

the stem wound have been wood and had feathers for a flight.

the point has eroded away
The hole in the end is approximately 3 or 4 mm. Which is about right for a modern nylon shaft.

The wooden ones as far as I remember were much bigger.

Its approximately the same size as a 303 except fatter at the front.


Hold one between your thumb and first two fingers. Just see how small it is. Its not impossible to be a dart but it is extremely small.

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by MilitaryMetalMagnut » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:01 pm

I’ve also never seen a bullet ‘squidge’ like that!
Looks similar in size and shape to a ‘Lazy Dog’ bomblet, but can’t help further. :-/

Interesting find, though. Is that lead in the base?

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by RRPG » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:33 pm

It's a dart.....as in 'ONE HUNDRED AND EIGGGGGGGGGGGHTY!'

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Re: Bullet Tip ID

Post by Resurgam » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:37 pm

MilitaryMetalMagnut wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:01 pm
I’ve also never seen a bullet ‘squidge’ like that!
Looks similar in size and shape to a ‘Lazy Dog’ bomblet, but can’t help further. :-/

Interesting find, though. Is that lead in the base?

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