Silver thimble age?

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Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:39 pm

Hi everyone. Had a great weekend with a few bits of silver. This was my favourite as it's my first silver thimble. It was found on parkland around 8 inches down. Most finds in this area are Georgian but have some older finds too. It has heart shapes running around the centre and a hole at the bottom as seen in the first pic. No hallmarks unfortunately. It also has a large split up one side. Makro red racer with rc40- 2 tone- sensitivity 80. Tid was swinging between 65-78. Any help with age much appreciated.
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Bors » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:05 pm

I wasn`t far out then :)) :))
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by sweepstick47 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:10 pm

It's a nice complete one but holed for some unaccountable reason. Despite it being your first, they are extremely common finds. Probably late 19th C/early 20th C but you can obtain loads more information by 'Googling' it and selecting Images to see many differing examples. Regards ss47
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:18 pm

Thanks for your help fellas ::g

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Bors » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:18 pm

Is there any signs of a Hall mark on it >?

Those Hearts are bugging me though . They are typical Charles 2nd Hearts. :-/
See on these Charles cuff links.
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:27 pm

Bors wrote:
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Is there any signs of a Hall mark on it >?
Just had another going over it but unfortunately no sign of a hallmark at all.

I did notice it's quite wonkey, the lines at the top and the hearts etc. Weather that's a sign of age or just a cheapy one I've no idea :D

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Allectus » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Similar examples on UKDFD are listed as 17th century. ::g

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by garrettoldboy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:13 pm

hello, buy a copy of collins gem, antique marks,

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:31 pm

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm going to contact the flo to cover my backside :D . Could well be my first treasure item. Thanks again ::g

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by garrettoldboy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:51 pm

garrettoldboy wrote:
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hello, buy a copy of collins gem, antique marks,
hello, a little research on the land might help, my suggestion was it was pressed out, the hearts were an added feature, love token ?? a present from a man to his wife/ sweetheart, as we use to say in olden times, like love tokens from silver coins i am sure loosing would be up setting for the owner

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:23 pm

garrettoldboy wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:51 pm
hello, a little research on the land might help, my suggestion was it was pressed out, the hearts were an added feature, love token ?? a present from a man to his wife/ sweetheart, as we use to say in olden times, like love tokens from silver coins i am sure loosing would be up setting for the owner
Hello. The land itself was parkland for a country house that was built in the early 18th century. It was constructed after the demolision of a medieval manor house. There is a small area where I've found a small amount of Saxon finds and quite a lot of medieval finds in the general area of the later house which is where the thimble was found. I can't find any records on os maps or tithe maps of any farming on the land at all only mentions deer park.
I think you are absolutely right about the love token thing. I think it might have been worn on a chain possibly? Would explain the hole in the bottom edge. I've just seen a book " thimble keepsakes of the 16th and 17th century" might be worth a look. Thanks ::g

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by targets » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:27 pm

could be 17th ..they dont usualy have hallmarks as too light
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by garrettoldboy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:39 pm

Shaneb3 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:23 pm
garrettoldboy wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:51 pm
hello, a little research on the land might help, my suggestion was it was pressed out, the hearts were an added feature, love token ?? a present from a man to his wife/ sweetheart, as we use to say in olden times, like love tokens from silver coins i am sure loosing would be up setting for the owner
Hello. The land itself was parkland for a country house that was built in the early 18th century. It was constructed after the demolision of a medieval manor house. There is a small area where I've found a small amount of Saxon finds and quite a lot of medieval finds in the general area of the later house which is where the thimble was found. I can't find any records on os maps or tithe maps of any farming on the land at all only mentions deer park.
I think you are absolutely right about the love token thing. I think it might have been worn on a chain possibly? Would explain the hole in the bottom edge. I've just seen a book " thimble keepsakes of the 16th and 17th century" might be worth a look. Thanks ::g
hello, in that case maybe lost by a servant, keep looking the chain might turn up ? a house maid/seamstress from butler/ or lower rank, its all part of finding and thinking a lost piece of history,

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by fred » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:55 pm

I would have thought a few decades either side of 1700 would be pretty safe bet. A silver thimble would have belonged to somebody of note, or it would at least have been a pretty special posession. The hole suggests to me that it may have been worn on a chatelaine. Great find anyway. ::g
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by pakeha » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:05 pm

That is a great example of a mid to late 17 th C silver thimble.The hole could be that it was suspended on a chatelaine,very nice example.See Brian Read's book "Metal sewing-thimbles found in Britain" Recently published and available through Archaeo press.

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:56 pm

You rarely see a silver thimble with a heart on them, or anything that interesting. Yours is a pretty special find in my book. Very nice l;.
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Bargeman » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:02 pm

Bors wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:18 pm
Is there any signs of a Hall mark on it >?

Those Hearts are bugging me though . They are typical Charles Hearts. :-/
See on these Charles cuff links.
Wow those cufflinks have a striking resemblance to the pair I found today ::g


Nice Thimble Shane ::g



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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:03 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:56 pm
You rarely see a silver thimble with a heart on them, or anything that interesting. Yours is a pretty special find in my book. Very nice l;.
Thank you. I was going to head home 20 minutes earlier but decided to have a quick check on a small area. So glad I did as it produced my two best finds today. My wife absolutely loves it. I'm probably going to have to hide it until I hear back from the flo =))

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:09 pm

Shaneb3 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:03 pm
Oxgirl36 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:56 pm
You rarely see a silver thimble with a heart on them, or anything that interesting. Yours is a pretty special find in my book. Very nice l;.
Thank you. I was going to head home 20 minutes earlier but decided to have a quick check on a small area. So glad I did as it produced my two best finds today. My wife absolutely loves it. I'm probably going to have to hide it until I hear back from the flo =))
Of course - forgot that it could be treasure!
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Wuntbedruv » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:25 pm

c. 1600-1700
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Ordains for each one spot shall prove beloved over all.
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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by Shaneb3 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 pm

Thanks for the help everyone. Flo has confirmed it's 16-17th century. I'm just arranging to take it to her to go through the treasure process. She seems to really like it, I don't think I'll be getting this one back :(( . Oh well at least it'll be somewhere everyone can enjoy it ::g

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Re: Silver thimble age?

Post by HolzHammer » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:38 am

I hate finding thimbles #grrrrrrrrrr! but would love to have found that one!!!!!

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