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Roman Brooches

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:56 pm
by ARCH
Evening Ladies /Gents, I have a question of course aimed at XP Deus users….
Something has been puzzling me over the last couple of seasons, I search a few Roman sites where I have found plenty of Roman coins and pottery however I have only found 1 Roman broach and some broach fragments.
Everywhere I look and listen especially the internet, Roman broaches on Roman sites should be plentiful !!
So I am looking if possible to improve my program and maybe search technique.
I am interested if anyone out there has found any with their Deus ? If yes , I would be very interested if anyone can remember or maybe just an air test what signal was received and what program was being used………..
Most notably I am interested in what was shown on the `XY` screen since this is the screen I use as my preference is coin shooting. I am aware that broaches can be of all shapes and sizes which effects the signal.
The only intact bronze Roman bow broach I have gives a clear coin signal ….
Of course I could just be unlucky………..
Best Regards

Re: Roman Broaches

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:59 pm
by Bargeman
It took me ages to find my first roman fibula brooch, even though I was finding plenty of roman coinage, just because it is a roman site does not mean it is or was a roman settlement. ::g



BM [:)

Re: Roman Broaches

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:09 pm
by ARCH
Yes good point "Bargeman"...I am thinking I am watching to much media on the subject. Its that Time Team scenario!!

Re: Roman Broaches

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:13 pm
by ARCH
PS `Bargeman`, any recommendations for a Roman Coin shooting program, what`s your current favourite ...........?

Re: Roman Broaches

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:34 pm
by detecttheearth
It totally depends on the site. Some sites are packed full of coins with one brooch for say every 50 coins as a rough ratio. Which if you think about it, makes a lot of sense based on the average coin to brooch ratio on the average Roman briton. Temple sites and rivers will give you a lot more brooches. Always nice when they come up and I often find they have a deep, thick tone. only work off tones so can't really help on readings I'm afraid. Good luck.

Re: Roman Broaches

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:54 pm
by Easylife
ARCH wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:56 pm So I am looking if possible to improve my program and maybe search technique.
I am interested if anyone out there has found any with their Deus ? If yes , I would be very interested if anyone can remember or maybe just an air test what signal was received and what program was being used………..
I think mine came in at 70 on the Deus and sounded clean like a coin, though if it still had it's iron pin it maybe would have been a bit scratchy. Quite often things turn up when you least expect them. ::g

Re: Roman Broaches

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:04 pm
by Oxgirl36
The trouble is they can sound a bit irony because of the pin. Any high tones are worth digging.

What coil and programme are using?

Re: Roman Brooches

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:53 am
by thefiggis
As said above, some will give you a scratchy signal but the top note should tell you whether to dig or not. Nearly all of mine presented like this.

This Saxon cruciform is a prime example and very nearly didn't get dug, with all that iron stuck to the back.
iron encrusted.jpg
I don't go by numbers either but brooches (and indeed most Roman bronzes) generally come in around the mid-fifties on the Ultimate programme. But trust your lugholes above all else.

Re: Roman Brooches

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:14 am
by roamingrob
I am just the opposite to you.. l have had 4 Roman brooches over the years in my area but not one identifiable coin, hundreds of finds then last year a gold celtic starter .. hard to believe... but l suppose that's how it goes in the MD world. The last brooch was a large one and gave a banging signal l use the hot mode. ::g

Re: Roman Brooches

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:09 pm
by ARCH
Thanks Ladies /Gents lots of good info and points.

Totally agree about the ratio. I also believe in my ratio that one coin in every dozen or more is of good enough quality to photograph.

I would also be interested in your thoughts of what program you would use to `winkle` out any Roman coins from large pottery scatters.?? Where every sweep you get all sorts of chatter and negative feedback........

I am think maybe I should have a high reactivity set ?

XP Deus
X35 12" x 13" coil

Thanks in advance, best regards