Bronze stater?

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Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 9:13 am

I found this coin last Sunday and I think it's made of bronze.
It looks like it has two or three circles and a raised bit on one side which could be an animal but it could be wishful thinking.
It could be silver as there are some darker spots underneath.
I would like to clean it but I don't want to ruin it.
Any ideas would be welcome.
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by Allectus » Sat May 18, 2019 9:44 am

Far too small for a stater. If I was a betting man :D I'd go for a Sceat. Not unusual for them to come out looking like that.....a few 'zaps' should reveal all. ::g


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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 9:48 am

After looking in Spinks book I am thinking Celtic Dubnovellaunus sp180 and size is bang on
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by Allectus » Sat May 18, 2019 9:50 am

Here's one I cooked earlier. :))


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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 9:52 am

Wow what a transformation!
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 9:57 am

Here it is but like you say in need of a zap.
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by Allectus » Sat May 18, 2019 10:02 am

Hope it's a Dubno, mate. ::g

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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 pm

I practiced on a couple of cut halves and wow! 10 seconds cleans them up really well.
The bronze coin seems to be bronze or iron after all as it doesn't seem affected by the electrocution. ;;z
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by Easylife » Sat May 18, 2019 2:42 pm

jondurandsilver wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 pm
The bronze coin seems to be bronze or iron after all as it doesn't seem affected by the electrocution. ;;z
Or not making a good enough contact? x;
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 4:12 pm

Seemed to be working well enough with the silver coins.
Maybe because there's so much crud on it, it might need a little longer?
Does electrocution work on bronze?
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by Me and my boy » Sat May 18, 2019 4:31 pm

Pretty sure it will wreck bronze.
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by djm666 » Sat May 18, 2019 9:00 pm

I does look like it could be like a sceat I cleaned for a friend a while back as there is some evidence of ring decoration. This took several hours of electrocution electrolysis. Soaking in EDTA (Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid) before the electrolysis can also help loosen the crud.
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Warning: If it is bronze and not silver you will likely not get good very good results. It will be stripped down to bare metal and there is unlikely to be any good detail left.
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Re: Bronze stater?

Post by jondurandsilver » Sat May 18, 2019 10:11 pm

Thanks for the info, very interesting to see what you achieved.
I'll give it another go soon.
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