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What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:06 am
by Oxgirl36
One of my permissions had major civil war action. There are musket balls everywhere

Fred had told me earlier this year to watch out for powder measures and today I found my third bit of one

. But I’d never had a powder flask nozzle but, a few feet away, I got my first one. Then a few feet from that a chewed musket ball.
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It made me start thinking about what I’d found on this site. There are hundreds of musket balls, and lots of other lead shot. I have been reading
this great guidance on recording civil war battlefields and realised I have pretty much all the musket balls described. I have 2 chewed balls, one with purposeful dents, ones unfired, some with impressive impact evidence and ones with bands round (supposedly not civil war ones). The guide has loads of photos and additional info so really is worth a read.
I even have this one where two balls have collided
There are lots of spoons and other evidence too. It builds a great picture which I’m carefully recording
So enjoy the photo gallery of musket balls, peripheral items and other ammunition.
They come in lots of different sizes...
Some are chewed whilst others are burred
Banded ones are post 17th century
Distorted bullets with firing marks - possibly from being rammed too hard into the gun
Conjoined? No I think it’s two that just collided
They can get very squished on impact
Gunpowder measure

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:26 am
by johnboy25
Nice post and photos

look forward to seeing what comes up next.
John
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:26 am
by JBM
Interesting finds from a civil war Battlefield area.
Cannon Balls should also follow.
Well thats my past experience.
Jerry.
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:34 am
by Dave8472
What a great post, thanks

and for the link
Dave

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:11 am
by Mike. T.
Maybe a siege piece if you are extremely lucky. They were carried as souvenirs so can turn up anywhere related to that period. Scarborough ones are the rarest.
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:14 am
by Oxgirl36
JBM wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:26 am
Interesting finds from a civil war Battlefield area.
Cannon Balls should also follow.
Well thats my past experience.
Jerry.
Haven’t found canon balls but have dug up parts of mortar - the thick iron shell of the exploding type often used in siege situations. Big iron I ignore so I’m sure there’s loads there.
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:17 am
by Oxgirl36
Mike. T. wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:11 am
Maybe a siege piece if you are extremely lucky. They were carried as souvenirs so can turn up anywhere related to that period. Scarborough ones are the rarest.
I've been looking, believe me. All I’ve found coin wise are rose farthings for this period. A bit of silver would be nice too
Found loads of bullets too. These are later aren’t they?
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:31 am
by jcmaloney
Great mix of stuff & a most excellent post, there were so many skirmish`s across the country its important to treat them well.
Certainly worth the "pain" of some all metal detecting to establish the kit used.

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:20 am
by Easylife
It would be pretty cool if you found a cannon!

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:24 am
by bob79
Nice lot of finds there Cath, how about a nice Oxford mint Civil War crown dropped by one of the Cavaliers.
Bob

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:28 am
by Oxgirl36
Easylife wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:20 am
It would be pretty cool if you found a cannon!
A whole cannon? Cool possibly but ain’t going to happen. Sick of iron buckles and bits of pewter spoons and tombac and other similar buttons. Luckily there’s also medieval stuff though too

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:28 am
by Oxgirl36
bob79 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:24 am
Nice lot of finds there Cath, how about a nice Oxford mint Civil War crown dropped by one of the Cavaliers.
Bob
Yes please

Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:43 am
by dondo
Oxgirl36 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:06 am
Distorted bullets with firing marks - possibly from being rammed too hard into the gun
Great finds, i think it's 6th photo down, the ball on the left looks to have rifling marks?
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:13 am
by MilitaryMetalMagnut
Really nice.
The ones that have a band around them are for the Brunswick rifle, early 19th C. The conical Minie will be much later, 1850 onwards.
The ones that looked chewed appear to have been miscast. I cast my own lead balls for my .44 revolver that’s on my licence, when the mould isn’t hot enough when casting, they look like prunes.
Great finds,
Simon
Re: What to expect on a civil war site
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am
by Oxgirl36
MilitaryMetalMagnut wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:13 am
The ones that looked chewed appear to have been miscast. I cast my own lead balls for my .44 revolver that’s on my licence, when the mould isn’t hot enough when casting, they look like prunes.
Great finds,
Simon
Hi Simon
Thank you for the other info, that’s really helpful

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Interestingly on the ‘chewed’ ones you said the same as a friend of mine that does a lot of re-enactments etc. So I brought the two in that I added in the photo above. After handling them he was pretty sure one was burred and the other shows clear teeth marks. It’s hard to photograph them well enough to show that

. These two are now used by a guy who does talks in schools about the civil war.
I do have at least a couple of miscast ones somewhere in the box and they would photograph similarly I guess, but feel and look different in the hand.