Surface Aluminium ???

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Surface Aluminium ???

Post by Bootneck45RM » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:02 pm

Hi all,
Whilst walking back from a dig near moorland came across a pice of alloy sticking out of the ground. Thinking it could do (to the future), nobody any good, I picked it up and took it home.
When given a wash it turned out to be a hollow tube with an internal section composed of a white outer ring and a black center with 4 holes in it. Almost like a plug socket, but not!
Vacuum cleaner tube? part of a rocket? I dont know.
Does anyone else?
Any opinions welcome, as I don't want to throw it in the alloy bin just yet.
Thanks for looking.
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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by TheAndyA » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:14 pm

Could it be a gas burner nozzle, or one of those Bird Scarers?
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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by Bootneck45RM » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:29 pm

Thanks for that Andy, but no signs of heat damage as far as I can see. Possibly compressed air? Cheers though 👍
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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by jarrett » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:18 pm

Don't know how much it has been cleaned but if that had corrosion on it i would guess aircraft, probably wrong but hey ho.

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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by maylandmanta » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:30 pm

I was a gas engineer and my first thoughts were a burner nozzle of some sort with the " air intake cone " end but given the location I would look towards some sort of crop sprayer nozzle or even a seed drill ,however that's a guess as no idea what they usually look like


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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by Mutley » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:38 pm

Are you digging near a railway line? Looks like the guard from a sleeper drill.

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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by alloverover » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:50 pm

I know what you are saying about a rocket, it does bare a striking similarity to Schermuly but those nipples at the base wouldn't make for a smooth trip out of the tube I don't think ::g

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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by Rambocantona » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:22 pm

Any big firework displays there recently,or near there?
Looks like possible large display firework.
But not too sure.
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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by MilitaryMetalMagnut » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:54 pm

British military parachute illumination flare rocket, from either the L12A2, or current issue L24A1 rocket illumination flares. ::g

The L12A2 entered service in 2005 with it's improved pull cord design over the older L5A4 lever design. (The lever on the L5A4 was too small to be easily used in cold weather, when the user would be wearing gloves). The L24A1 is replacing the L12A2 rocket flare as of 2011, which is essentially the same as the older version, but has a 'twist' design instead of the pull cord.
The two 'nubs' at the bottom end of the rocket is to grip rifling inside the green plastic tube/barrel.

This is a photograph I took a while back of my own rockets and its parts. ::g

You'll see my examples are dated May 2008 and August 2009 respectively, with the ‘PSH’ makers initials. These rockets are made by Pyrotechnik Silberhütte GMBH in Harzgerode (20 miles from Leipzig, Germany), which is part of Rheinmetall of Düsseldorf.

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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by alloverover » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:44 am

alloverover wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:50 pm
I know what you are saying about a rocket, it does bare a striking similarity to Schermuly but those nipples at the base wouldn't make for a smooth trip out of the tube I don't think ::g
MilitaryMetalMagnut wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:54 pm
British military parachute illumination flare rocket, from either the L12A2, or current issue L24A1 rocket illumination flares. ::g

The L12A2 entered service in 2005 with it's improved pull cord design over the older L5A4 lever design. (The lever on the L5A4 was too small to be easily used in cold weather, when the user would be wearing gloves). The L24A1 is replacing the L12A2 rocket flare as of 2011, which is essentially the same as the older version, but has a 'twist' design instead of the pull cord.
The two 'nubs' at the bottom end of the rocket is to grip rifling inside the green plastic tube/barrel.

This is a photograph I took a while back of my own rockets and its parts. ::g

You'll see my examples are dated May 2008 and August 2009 respectively, with the ‘PSH’ makers initials. These rockets are made by Pyrotechnik Silberhütte GMBH in Harzgerode (20 miles from Leipzig, Germany), which is part of Rheinmetall of Düsseldorf.

Image

::g

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This is what I was talking about, been superseded I see ::g

https://www.google.com/amp/s/talesfromt ... flare/amp/

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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by ratty » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 am

Most illuminating, ::g :))


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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by MilitaryMetalMagnut » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:48 am

alloverover wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:44 am

I am becoming a dinosaur :))

This is what I was talking about, been superseded I see ::g

https://www.google.com/amp/s/talesfromt ... flare/amp/
That’s the chap. ::g I’ve found a few of them, but all are faded after 35 years in the elements. ::g

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Re: Surface Aluminium ???

Post by Bootneck45RM » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:13 pm

Simon,
What can I say, (even I should have seen that - been out of the corps for too long)!
You're a star, might not see you on many digs but you're worth your weight in schmoulies.
Cheers for that and best regards.
Glad you liked the 7.56 for the collection.
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Post by Bootneck45RM » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:31 pm

Hmmmm!
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Post by MilitaryMetalMagnut » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:13 pm

Bootneck45RM wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:13 pm
Simon,
What can I say, (even I should have seen that - been out of the corps for too long)!
You're a star, might not see you on many digs but you're worth your weight in schmoulies.
Cheers for that and best regards.
Glad you liked the 7.56 for the collection.
🙂👍🎆
Len
You’re very welcome, Len! Many thanks indeed! Always happy to help with a bit of ‘militree’ ::g

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