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First proper time out, a help with ID please

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:06 pm
by Gallowglaich
Newb with Nokta Makro legend on wet beach settings. Estuary mudflat/wet beach. Depth around 4 inches plus on both.
One is a copper nail in situ with other piece of copper and another nail hole, apologies for scale but I cant lie it flat. Probably from a boat but I wondered about a rough dating?

The other, completely baffled, blackish with maybe a tinge of green, heavyish metal non magnetic, not soft like lead. Been worked going by flat edge, curve and `teeth` and perhaps the two blobs are/were connectors on rear.

Re: First proper time out, a help with ID please

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:20 pm
by Gallowglaich
Could the item be a denticulate scraper? Having read a bit more around the net there are descriptions but no pics I can find of earlier metal scrapers. The blobs being part of fairly crude smelting?? Thanks for any help or ideas

Re: First proper time out, a help with ID please

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:17 pm
by Gallowglaich
It`s going off to treasure trove for assessment. Solid 38 reading on the Nokta indicates copper alloy maybe??

My guess is magnetite coated bronze, there`s black sand in abundance nearby and I found a hot rock probably coke nearby as well. Whether deliberately magnetite coated or corrosion process from the mud and sand we`ll see.

Re: First proper time out, a help with ID please

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:10 pm
by beaubrummell
Could the first item be part of a Gunters Chain?

chain.jpg

https://www.rushdenheartsandsoles.co.uk ... chain.html

Re: First proper time out, a help with ID please

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:11 pm
by Gallowglaich
beaubrummell wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:10 pm Could the first item be part of a Gunters Chain?


chain.jpg


https://www.rushdenheartsandsoles.co.uk ... chain.html
Thanks that's a good shout.

Re: First proper time out, a help with ID please

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:34 pm
by sweepstick47
Whilst the GC is indeed a possibility it seems unnecessarily heavy based on examples I've found/seen.
It's also not 'waisted' to provide a 'pair-drop' shape which where most have. The two protrusions on the rear suggest (to me) they're the remains of attachment lugs to indicate your item may be a decorative harness adornment [42/]
Obviously, the missing section would have held more precise clues! Cheers Eric