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94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:56 pm
by hairyharry
Hi, today i got a Viccy silver One Shilling 1875, but it came in at 94.
I was surprised to see a coin as the other silver coins i have dug with the deus have come in at a lower number, is this normal with this coin and the Deus, or have i just got my numbers mixed up.

HH :D

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:30 pm
by Fishermansam
That is strange... Normally large copper/bronze coins come up around 90's and silvers come in 40's - 60's (?)


Sam :;@

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:04 pm
by Boxface
Big thick chunky silvers come up at 94/95 on setting 2 on mine buddy, a 2 schilling Viccy and Charles 11 sixpence both came in that high for me buddy

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:10 pm
by rab the ranter
The main point is, it was a good enough signal and you dug it. Don't pay too much attention
to VDU numbers and rely more on the tones. I've been reading up a lot on the Deus recently
as I just recently got one and apparently the Deus was origonally designed as a tone only
machine with the controler on a magnet so that you can adjust your settings then stick it in
your pocket.
::g

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:30 pm
by forest ferret
rab the ranter wrote:The main point is, it was a good enough signal and you dug it. Don't pay too much attention
to VDU numbers and rely more on the tones. I've been reading up a lot on the Deus recently
as I just recently got one and apparently the Deus was origonally designed as a tone only
machine with the controler on a magnet so that you can adjust your settings then stick it in
your pocket.
::g
Yep, that's exactly what I do, I hardly look at the control, only if the signal was iffy ::g

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:49 pm
by slinky
My first silver denarius came up at 82, yesterday's denarius was 70. Had quite a few roman bronzes come in at 98 and then change when I have dug em out. Don't tend to look at the screen much anymore, only to change settings...... Trust your ears....... ::g

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:50 pm
by hairyharry
Yes i do use my ears, but i do find myself looking at the screen, but i do not rely on it, as coming from a GMP i am more alert to tone changes ::g

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:51 pm
by Maximuswarks
i think a lot depends on the ground conditions and as it is so wet the signals are all over the place, when i got my first Roman coin with the Deus back in the summer it came out at 84, now it is so wet most seem to ring around 76 and some as low as 54 . Just listen to what the machine is saying to you ::g

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:46 pm
by hairyharry
Thanks for the replies, and going by tones and sharp signals has to be the way to hunt, and not relying on the numbers to dig or not.
this is the way I used to dig before I got a screen, so I am just going to use the screen for adjusting settings and reference.

I detect on 2 farms only a few miles apart, and the same sort of coins give different numbers, but are digable signals, so it must be soil and moisture conditions.

thank you all for the advice
HH

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:23 pm
by Kmarsh
yeah RM's spot on again, ::g .when ya add up the different combinations ya can set the Deus to, all will give a slight or even more of a difference in vdu numbers.... Tones are best, but my remote is generally mounted for the coke, my hearing aint that good these days on slight tone difference, one reason I use 2 tones.... :D

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:48 pm
by pasttarg
yep thats normal ,tried a silver half crown ,came in at 94 as did a silver spur .silver ingot got 99

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:13 pm
by albertwybert
Back in Victorian times several die number experiments were performed. Presumably, most were used to determine the lifetime of specific dies.
The most well known was that on the silver coinage of 1864-1879, namely the sixpence, shilling and florin. (Brit Tips)

Your shilling will have a die number above the date. I think they tried to make each die number using a different process to see which one lasted the longest.

These are the die numbers for the 1875 shilling ;
(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,27,28,29,30,32,33,34,35,36,38,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,64,65,67,68,69,70,71,72,74,84,87)

I wonder if it is possible that the different processes would cause different number displays on your detector?

Or am I barking mad :))

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:35 pm
by hairyharry
Hi, if it helps, the die number above the date is 12

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:37 pm
by slinky
Just found this on the interweb and thought I would pinch it and post it here :))
VDU numbers for the Deus, personally I don't tend to trust the numbers greatly but I know some do....


Stater (Commius)
11.8 kHz 73
17.7 kHz 80

Henry VI Quarter Noble
11.8 kHz 62
17.7 kHz 71

George III Sovereign
11.8 kHz 74
17.7 kHz 80

Edward III Half Noble
11.8 kHz 71
17.7 kHz 77

Valentinian II Solidus
11.8 kHz 80
17.7 kHz 85

Stater (Chute type)
11.8 kHz 76
17.7 kHz 82

The standard and large coils both produce exactly the same readings for either frequency.

With the range covering numbers from 62 to 85 and, bearing in mind that any of these can be "in soil" at different depths, lying at different angles and with the proximity of other targets, it's clear that one should not rely on target ID if looking for specific items.

Thanks to someone called Dave..... :)) :D ::g

Re: 94 for a Silver Coin, is this Normal?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:56 pm
by froggyfagan
::g I've had silvers,coins and rings out @ 68 and up to 92 on Basic 1,I had a silver 1 franc @ a solid 80,big Aluminium coins come in @ 95,as do big bronze,I always read the numbers and rely on the tone for confirmation,I never change the factory settings for Basic 1 and use it 95% of the time. ::g