Council Permission

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Re: Council Permission

Post by Wuntbedruv » Fri May 03, 2019 12:49 pm

nubsey wrote:
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So can you organise a rally and sayn it is a archaeological dig
That argument is less watertight than a colander.


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Re: Council Permission

Post by GeorgeMK » Fri May 03, 2019 4:25 pm

nubsey wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:01 pm

So can you organise a rally and sayn it is a archaeological dig
it would be sod’s law that you would fine a hoard and then the following would come into play,

“With regards to the payment of rewards the Treasure Act says states that:
..rewards will not be payable when the find is made by an archaeologist or anyone engaged on an archaeological excavation or investigation.
This then applies to all archaeologists and volunteers working on any project.”

https://finds.org.uk/treasure/advice/forarchaeologists

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Re: Council Permission

Post by alloverover » Fri May 03, 2019 7:34 pm

If you got permission from my local council yesterday then you may as well rip it up today because that council has been blown, not only out of the water but off the planet ::g

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Re: Council Permission

Post by Paul Jack » Fri May 03, 2019 8:21 pm

We seem to be very lucky in Swansea. The council allow us to detect most of the parks in Swansea between 1st October and the end of March. This has been going on for some considerable time.

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Re: Council Permission

Post by nubsey » Sun May 05, 2019 12:36 am

I think this is a great posting, but although I am new to the hobby/recreation, there seems to be a reluctance for some folks to say where. Typical response, I asked my council and they said yes when I showed them I had insurance. It seems as if they are intent on guarding the infomation, incase someone else gets a licence as well. If you are in Upper snodgrass council, it matters nothing to most of us on here. But if you can get a meeting with the council on the matter it would be great to say that Upper Snodgrass will allow it, so why don't you.

Nubsey. Spelthorne council, but might have ago at Runnymede next door soon.
So please let us know what Council.
I am starting a list, just in case my mob say no. Then the fun starts.
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Re: Council Permission - Glasgow

Post by TheNCMD » Sun May 05, 2019 2:51 pm

Magnas wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:42 am
Hi all, I saw the thread and wondered what the situation would be in Glasgow's parks. On the city council's website I found this.

9. Events and Other Activities
9.2 The use of metal detectors is allowed, but only when the user is a member of the National Council for Metal Detecting, and is in possession of a permit issued by the National Council for Metal Detecting for detecting in Glasgow’s parks.

My NCMD member's card is on its way but I have no idea about the permit they mention.
Your best bet to get an answer on this one would be to contact the Scottish NCMD who arranged access to the parks in the first place.
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Re: Council Permission - Glasgow

Post by Magnas » Sun May 05, 2019 3:03 pm

Your bets bet to get an answer on this one would be to contact the Scottish NCMD who arranged access to the parks in the first place.
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Will do, thanks.

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Re: Council Permission

Post by BigglesVII » Thu May 09, 2019 8:20 pm

Recieved a firm No from Mid Sussex Council to all parks, woodlands and open spaces.

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Re: Council Permission

Post by nubsey » Thu May 16, 2019 10:46 am

Went down to the club last Tuesday, and mentioned about emailing Spelthorne council, about detecting land. It appears that we have been granted two small bits to detect on. Just phoned up the guy and he has confirmed it. So this is great news. They do not allow it in thier parks etc, but this is a small pathway plus about 50 ft to the side, that is right on top of where I live. So another council that tries to help out where they can, at not a blanket ban.
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Re: Council Permission

Post by RichardJ » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:00 am

Good morning , I have just contacted my local council , Newark and sherwood , they replied within minutes asking me to contact Nottinghamshire county council

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Re: Council Permission

Post by peteh » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:05 pm

Keep us up to date with this Richard ::g
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Re: Council Permission

Post by Pete E » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:17 pm

nubsey wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 10:46 am
They do not allow it in thier parks etc, but this is a small pathway plus about 50 ft to the side, that is right on top of where I live. So another council that tries to help out where they can, at not a blanket ban.
Sorry, but I think that's rather pathetic thinking how much land Councils typically own....Its probably the bare minimum small area the Council can authorise so that they can say "they allow detecting"...

This is not a crack at yourself BTW and I understand something is better than nothing, but peeves it me to see Detectorists treated as second class citizens rather than any other recreational land user...
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Re: Council Permission

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:37 pm

Pete E wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:17 pm
nubsey wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 10:46 am
They do not allow it in thier parks etc, but this is a small pathway plus about 50 ft to the side, that is right on top of where I live. So another council that tries to help out where they can, at not a blanket ban.
Sorry, but I think that's rather pathetic thinking how much land Councils typically own....Its probably the bare minimum small area the Council can authorise so that they can say "they allow detecting"...

This is not a crack at yourself BTW and I understand something is better than nothing, but peeves it me to see Detectorists treated as second class citizens rather than any other recreational land user...
The problem often is that a few spoil it for the rest if us. Just as lots of councils ban dogs in parks because a few owners don’t pick up dog waste, all it takes is one detectorist not filling in their holes properly and everyone gets stopped.

Councils banning detecting on beaches I’ve never got though. Saying no during the day in the summer is fair enough but blanket bans I don’t understand x;
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Re: Council Permission

Post by Pete E » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:59 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:37 pm
The problem often is that a few spoil it for the rest if us. Just as lots of councils ban dogs in parks because a few owners don’t pick up dog waste, all it takes is one detectorist not filling in their holes properly and everyone gets stopped.
Sadly there is an element of truth in that, but many Councils have other land not just parks..many have farms, undeveloped brown/green sites ect..
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Councils banning detecting on beaches I’ve never got though. Saying no during the day in the summer is fair enough but blanket bans I don’t understand x;
Yeah, kids can dig holes big enough to bury a VW, fishermen (myself included) can dig for bait, but detectorists are banned???? Makes no sense other than sour grapes...
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Re: Council Permission

Post by RichardJ » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:32 pm

After being passed from department to department I gave up , I’m not sure they know if the rules to be honest

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Re: Council Permission

Post by Dangerous Norman » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:55 pm

RichardJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:32 pm
After being passed from department to department I gave up , I’m not sure they know if the rules to be honest
Of course they know the rules word for word. Like all councils the rules are whatever they say at the time, they just try to sicken you off first so they don't have to remember the lies rules they made up last time they were asked.

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Re: Council Permission

Post by sweepstick47 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:05 pm

RichardJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:32 pm
After being passed from department to department I gave up , I’m not sure they know if the rules to be honest
Hello Richard, Have you raised this point personally with your local councillor. They often hold a 'drop-in' session where such matters can be broached and whilst you may not get an immediate answer, one should be forthcoming. If there is further communication on the subject, please keep us informed. ::g Good Luck Regards ss47
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Re: Council Permission

Post by LloydF » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:28 pm

"We don't normally allow this on our open space land we have allowed them on allotments before with consent from the allotment rep.

Many Thanks"

The reply from Peterborough City Council, I'd forgotten I sent this! Luckily have gained 2 permissions since so it is easier to swallow!
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Re: Council Permission

Post by RichardJ » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:13 pm

Morning all , I read an article on the web by a gentleman who had applied to his village councillors (bilsthorpe , Nottinghamshire) and they granted him permission at one of their meetings
I know one of my local councillors fairly well due to him serving in afghan with my brother so I will get in touch with him
I do now have my first permission from ********** in Nottinghamshire, he charges £2.50 a day , his fields have probably been detected more times than a little but a permission non the less

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Re: Council Permission

Post by detecting rod » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:52 pm

ok area i planned to metal detect is council owned thought i could just go and detect it ,but after reading up ,i see i need a permission ,so today i spoke with local counci lnice lady had no idea what i was even talking about so said she would get back to me ,have called back twice now first time she was on the phone but not at her desk (strange)second time she was in a meeting .whats the policy now.well as i finish this she has phoned back and said my borough is fine to metal detect in as long as we follow practice and fill in wholes ,thats kingston if any one else needs info

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Re: Council Permission

Post by ubdai66 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:18 pm

Just sent my second email to my local council. Automated reply on my first email said they would respond in 5 working days. Did they, hell as like. Oh for a job on the council.

Anyways second email has just gone in asking the same question about access to council maintained green spaces and why my original request from June never got an answer.

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Re: Council Permission

Post by detecting rod » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:23 pm

phone take note of persons name time date ,if no reply ia few days phone back ask for same person,again keep name time date ,thats how i did it

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Re: Council Permission

Post by AndyM » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:34 pm

I hate to say this but will anyway, saying such and such council says its OK to detect, may not be a good idea, the trouble is once the crazy's out there read or hear this they will tearing up parks and where ever else they fancy, using the I read it on the MDF free for all permissions list. Use any permission gained to your own advantage, certainly. The more people that detect on your "Free" and advertised permission means less for you to find. :)

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Re: Council Permission

Post by detecting rod » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:04 pm

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Re: Council Permission

Post by andy1973 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:37 am

not sure if this has been mentioned, but mendip offer a permit, not sure how much it is and they only specify a small amount of time and I think its a single location
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Re: Council Permission

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:52 am

Please note seeing someone else has permission to detect from a council does not give you the right to detect. You’ll need to check with them and obtain your own permission. This thread only provides guidance on where permission may or may not be given.

Just a reminder that saying ‘I saw it on the MDF’ is not a defence in law ::g
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